GTI Waffle thread

[FC]

Originally Posted by clyde

ZBB and I don't agree often on electric car stuff.

I agree with ZBB. There's no problem here other than whatever you are inventing to make it a problem.

I am not against the idea of an EV. I’ve said it before - I’d like to have an EV again. I already have a MT sedan. But that ID.4 thing is not what I think I want. Nothing is forcing me into swapping the Miata, so I certainly could wait.

[ZBB]

Originally Posted by FC

I’m not saying it won’t make it. Heck, the eGolf would have made that range if I babied it on cold days. It’s just inefficient.

Its still more efficient of a cold day than a GTI...

While I'm not in a cold climate anymore, I did spend 3 years with an EV in one, and my car sat in a concrete cold sink when at work -- so the battery was well below freezing most days when heading home. I used at most an extra 10 mile of range on cold days on my ~45-48 mile commute. And I charged at 120V at home. I never worried about babying it...

[FC]

A few thoughts/comments...

We have agreed that an S is good enough and we will live with the seats. We also want white.

You guys have me thinking of an EV now. The idea of getting one to be used heavily in winter is kind of ridiculous, but as I have said many times, I loved having a practical EV for the MANY short errands we do. Also, I still have the charger from the eGolf.

But, I know my wife would love the idea of taking the GTI to visit her parents in Montreal, and this would make a great car for the kids to use in 3-4 years when our oldest gets a license.

I'm still open to the right EV, but the GTI is the plan of record.

[JST]

EV tech is only getting better and cheaper, so there’s no harm in waiting.

I miss having a sunroof but now that I don’t have one in either car I’m fairly used to it. And I don’t miss having to worry about the drains.

And that cloth interior is super cool looking.

It’s a great all around car and is def in the running here too as I start to think about the kids starting to drive.

[FC]

Originally Posted by JST

It’s a great all around car and is def in the running here too as I start to think about the kids starting to drive.

I've said for years that it is the best value in cardom - especially if you keep the spec simple. You may recall we almost got one for my wife in 2016 and then instead went with the eGolf. Then I almost got one for myself and then went with the M3. So this thing has always been on our radar. I like the idea of having one in the household.

Now with all the bells and whistles I care about (LED lights, perf pkg, LSD) available std on the S trim, it's an even better value.

On the EV front, frankly, I'd get an eGolf again if it had updated batteries and power a la ID.4 (~ 2x the range and power). It would need real tires though.

[ZBB]

Originally Posted by FC

On the EV front, frankly, I'd get an eGolf again if it had updated batteries and power a la ID.4 (~ 2x the range and power). It would need real tires though.

That's basically the ID.3, which VW has decided not to sell in the US...

[FC]

Originally Posted by ZBB

That's basically the ID.3, which VW has decided not to sell in the US...

Ah! I see. I didn't know about that. But yes, I'd be open to one of those. But 4000lb! Ugh. Still not very fast 0-60. I could care less about that around town, since even the eGolf was quick 0-40. But where it sucked was at hwy speeds.

I take for granted that EV's are quick around town. I think the C&D test of 50-70 accel is a very important metric for EV's.

[JST]

Originally Posted by FC

I take for granted that EV's are quick around town. I think the C&D test of 50-70 accel is a very important metric for EV's.

You should just get a Model 3, tbh. Or maybe a Model Y if you need a bit more space.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-acceleration/

Originally Posted by Car and Driver, emphasis added

This Model 3 needed only 1.4 seconds to leap from 30 to 50 mph and just 2.0 seconds to get from 50 to 70. Never mind other sports sedans—they're not competitive by this measure. This Tesla's mid-range acceleration tops the performance of 700-hp sports cars like the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and Porsche 911 GT2 RS, in which there's a moment's delay while automatic transmissions downshift and engines rev up. And the Tesla does it without drama beyond the alarming way it pushes you back into the seat as the car closes on any traffic ahead. There's no jerk and no roar—plant your foot on the accelerator and it simply goes.

[Josh (PA)]

Any thoughts on a mini clubman instead? Every time I see one it looks like so much fun

[SARAFIL]

Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Any thoughts on a mini clubman instead? Every time I see one it looks like so much fun

I’m a former MINI guy and just can’t get excited about a new Clubman over some of the alternatives like a GTI. New MINIs have gotten really expensive, and ~10 years ago the premium for a MINI was ok when you knew you could get your money back at resale but that’s not the case anymore either. However if a used one is cheap enough, maybe that changes the equation a bit?