Mustang Mach-E - Page 7

Terri Kennedy · 01-12-2023, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John V

What's with all the FMC? Code requirement in your area?

Multi-family dwelling, so yes.

But most of the wire in the house dates to a time before Romex (NM-B) was commonly used. Some of the armored cable (BX) is of various older types, including what I'd call "fat spiral" and "flat-wound". You don't see that on the panels because the insulation (cotton-jacketed rubber) had become brittle over the years and was cut back several feet to where the insulation hadn't failed and routed into junction boxes, with new BX run to the panels. Some was just run through the junction box and extended because it didn't reach the new panels.

You can see some of those older types at the junction boxes in this picture.

Terri Kennedy · 01-12-2023, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan

Is this for a 1 family home or is it a Multiple family home ?

Multi-family (2 family on 3 floors, plus basement storage). I bought it from people who lived on the first floor and rented to the family on 2/3; I moved into 2/3 and rent out 1 as office space. The center panel for "common loads" like the furnace, water heater and outside lighting can have its feed easily flipped from the 2/3 panel to the 1 panel if future owners want to live on 1.

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500 amp total is tremendous

400 total. The 100A sub-panel is main lug (no main breaker) and is fed from a 100A breaker in the 2/3 panel.

Fortunately, the feed to the house is very beefy copper. I draw the line at futzing with stuff "upstream" of the meter bases. Popping the meters and running new wiring to the meter base output lugs is fine (only got 'bit' once).

And the drop to my house is only around 15 feet from the pole where 2000MCM wires come up from an underground transformer vault - so no voltage sag from being at the end of a long run.

Funny story - in July 1977 I was helping a friend with his wiring. I was watching a lamp to see which breaker he pulled controlled the circuit the lamp was connected to. After yelling "Not that one!" a few times, he flipped a breaker and the lamp went out. Along with the rest of NYC - the 1977 blackout. Pure coincidence.

wdc330i · 01-12-2023, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Terri Kennedy

Funny story - in July 1977 I was helping a friend with his wiring. I was watching a lamp to see which breaker he pulled controlled the circuit the lamp was connected to. After yelling "Not that one!" a few times, he flipped a breaker and the lamp went out. Along with the rest of NYC - the 1977 blackout. Pure coincidence.

ZBB · 01-13-2023, 07:42 AM

I love Terri's stories :-)

John V · 01-13-2023, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Terri Kennedy

But most of the wire in the house dates to a time before Romex (NM-B) was commonly used. Some of the armored cable (BX) is of various older types, including what I'd call "fat spiral" and "flat-wound". You don't see that on the panels because the insulation (cotton-jacketed rubber) had become brittle over the years and was cut back several feet to where the insulation hadn't failed and routed into junction boxes, with new BX run to the panels. Some was just run through the junction box and extended because it didn't reach the new panels.

Yeah, that makes sense. From the pics it all looked like very old work.

dan · 01-13-2023, 08:15 AM

so, how bout that Mustang Mach-E, huh?

wdc330i · 01-13-2023, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dan

so, how bout that Mustang Mach-E, huh?

jpgurl · 01-13-2023, 11:51 AM

wiring is much more interesting

lip277 · 01-13-2023, 12:15 PM

jpgurl · 08-13-2023, 07:27 PM

This isn't specifically Mach related, however...

In the last few weeks (while it's been over 105º), and attempting to charge the Mach, if the breaker panel or the plug+charging battery are in direct sun, it trips the breaker.

The only suitable time to charge is after dark. Which is fine, but interesting. Today around noon, the panel cover was reading ~130º measured with an IR thermometer.

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jpgurl Carmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: '22 MACH-E; '74 Austin Mini Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,754	This isn't specifically Mach related, however... In the last few weeks (while it's been over 105º), and attempting to charge the Mach, if the breaker panel or the plug+charging battery are in direct sun, it trips the breaker. The only suitable time to charge is after dark. Which is fine, but interesting. Today around noon, the panel cover was reading ~130º measured with an IR thermometer.