G87 M2

[Theo]

A fun little drag race from Throttle House.

https://youtu.be/RMHPAj4cxMc

M240i, Golf R, S3 - All three newer versions.

The one thing I see here is that these used to compete but I see a price delta happening with the BMW once you start adding options. You need to pay up for the extra perfomance and bigger engine.

I fear this may also be the case with the upcoming G87. We now know the RS3 pricing is up into the mid 60’s. I think the G87 will move much more up market in pricing this time around. It is stating with the same engine as the M3/4 this time, although maybe detuned again, so the price will reflect that. I am think a few options and 70K all day long.

If so I think there will be less buyers.

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Copy & Paste. New Info on S58 Crank Bearing Recall – Only Affecting Manual Transmission Vehicles.

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Tested: Car & Driver ~ 2022 BMW M240i xDrive Coupe Encroaches on the M2's Turf

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

[JST]

The fuel efficiency is impressive! The performance is insane, honestly, though I think we’re all getting numb to 12 second cars in the quarter because of EVs. And as someone bored, there is a huge fall off in the rolling start times, which means the car won’t feel as fast in the real world as you might think (3.6 seconds v 5).

Still, impressive. Too bad about it being auto only.

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Originally Posted by JST

The fuel efficiency is impressive! The performance is insane, honestly, though I think we’re all getting numb to 12 second cars in the quarter because of EVs. And as someone bored, there is a huge fall off in the rolling start times, which means the car won’t feel as fast in the real world as you might think (3.6 seconds v 5).

Still, impressive. Too bad about it being auto only.

Rumors floating around that a manual M240 may come. I do not believe it as BMW will use the manual in the G87 M2 to upsell those wanting one.

[Theo]

Originally Posted by SCA

Rumors floating around that a manual M240 may come. I do not believe it as BMW will use the manual in the G87 M2 to upsell those wanting one.

This would make sense as Supra buyers would switch looking for a manual in the 240 giving BMW the upper hand.

On the 0-60 times I read somewhere that the M240i’s launch control pre spools the turbo’s and up’s the boost which is why rolling start times fall off.

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Originally Posted by Theo

This would make sense as Supra buyers would switch looking for a manual in the 240 giving BMW the upper hand.

On the 0-60 times I read somewhere that the M240i’s launch control pre spools the turbo’s and up’s the boost which is why rolling start times fall off.

Another thought, if BMW will not offer an manual in the Z4 M40i there is no way the will offer one in the M240.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by SCA

Another thought, if BMW will not offer an manual in the Z4 M40i there is no way the will offer one in the M240.

Good point.

Another knock against the new 2 is that it has even less passenger volume and less leg room than the F22...

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Originally Posted by JST

The fuel efficiency is impressive! The performance is insane, honestly, though I think we’re all getting numb to 12 second cars in the quarter because of EVs. And as someone bored, there is a huge fall off in the rolling start times, which means the car won’t feel as fast in the real world as you might think (3.6 seconds v 5).



Still, impressive. Too bad about it being auto only.

Yeah the rolling start vs standing start discrepancies are often quite large in turbo charged cars - I think that’s why they started posting them. Plus with more advanced traction and launch control systems automakers have more tools at their disposal to game 0-60 times.


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The 2022 BMW M240i xDrive Smokes Its EPA Highway MPG Rating In Our 70 MPH Loop Test! https://youtu.be/Ugn5nzKw1RU