GTI replacement thread - Page 2

Josh (PA) · 03-03-2023, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

Josh, nice looking car but modded. Also not interested in older european cars unless super special car.

Edit: Annoying thing about the Integra for me is you need to buy the loaded up one to get the 6MT

There's not a lot out there anymore, its kind of sad. I grabbed this article that has all the manual new cars:
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...8aAojiEALw_wcB

Camaro or Mustang might be interesting. The WRX is fun and checks the 4 door box

Didn't know the Mazda 3 hatch still had a manual. Minis are still a ton of fun, even though they're bigger and heavier now.

I agree w/ JST - it seems like the Integra might be the best bet.

dan · 03-03-2023, 02:48 PM

huh, I hadn't even heard that Mazda nixed the RWD 6. I thought that was happening and was gonna suggest seeing what's what

https://www.motor1.com/news/575077/m...not-happening/

JST · 03-03-2023, 03:00 PM

The Mazda3 hatch is theoretically available with a manual but you have to buy the spendy version to get one.

Honestly, if you want a hatch and a 6 speed it’s pretty much the GR Corolla, Integra, or GTI/Golf R.

robg · 03-03-2023, 04:48 PM

base Taycan Cross Turismo for 99K. j/k

As JST said not much left that's available as a hatch with a manual. As tempting as another VW may be, I think you'll kick yourself if you have issues with it again.

Despite needing to get the loaded version in order to get a manual, it seems like it'd be worth atleast test driving the integra. They dont seem to sell well from what i can tell so maybe you can negotiate a discount.

Jeff_DML · 03-03-2023, 04:54 PM

thanks all, I am going to try to test drive that 6MT Integra this weekend.

complaining start...
Only problem is that it doesn't seem much of an upgrade over my GTI and for more money. Actually a downgrade on the engine 1.5T vs 2.0T. Seems like tech(and reliability) is the only upgrade.

robg · 03-03-2023, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

thanks all, I am going to try to test drive that 6MT Integra this weekend.

complaining start...
Only problem is that it doesn't seem much of an upgrade over my GTI and for more money. Actually a downgrade on the engine 1.5T vs 2.0T. Seems like tech(and reliability) is the only upgrade.

Yup. I think you're basically trading features and power for (hopefully) reliability and a bit more room. Plus a better feeling manual shifter from what i've read. As far as price, I guess the loaded integra is still cheaper than the Autobahn GTI - but I realize that's a moot point for you since you didn't want all those extra things anyway.

wdc330i · 03-03-2023, 06:51 PM

Crosstreks are available with a stick, if you can find one. I think the newest models will be CVT only.

They are pretty low on power through, and the manual is not supposed to be so great…

Nick M3 · 03-03-2023, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i

Crosstreks are available with a stick, if you can find one. I think the newest models will be CVT only.

They are pretty low on power through, and the manual is not supposed to be so great…

Nor is Subaru reliability...

Nick M3 · 03-03-2023, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by robg

Yup. I think you're basically trading features and power for (hopefully) reliability and a bit more room. Plus a better feeling manual shifter from what i've read. As far as price, I guess the loaded integra is still cheaper than the Autobahn GTI - but I realize that's a moot point for you since you didn't want all those extra things anyway.

The Integra seems like it sits in a strange spot. They've stuck it exactly in a slot between the Civic and the Type-R.

Not really clear that the 20hp justifies the price premium over the 180hp 6MT Civic.

I assume that the CTR is impossible to get. Too bad there.

JST · 03-03-2023, 10:39 PM

The 6MT hatchback Civics are hard to find and the Sport Touring (which has the 180 hp turbo engine) is 32.5; at that point, you’re probably better off with an Si.

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03-03-2023, 03:00 PM	#13
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,609	The Mazda3 hatch is theoretically available with a manual but you have to buy the spendy version to get one. Honestly, if you want a hatch and a 6 speed it’s pretty much the GR Corolla, Integra, or GTI/Golf R.

03-03-2023, 04:48 PM	#14
robg Carmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,241	base Taycan Cross Turismo for 99K. j/k As JST said not much left that's available as a hatch with a manual. As tempting as another VW may be, I think you'll kick yourself if you have issues with it again. Despite needing to get the loaded version in order to get a manual, it seems like it'd be worth atleast test driving the integra. They dont seem to sell well from what i can tell so maybe you can negotiate a discount.

03-03-2023, 04:54 PM	#15
Jeff_DML Old Fart Join Date: Oct 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: T4R,GTI Location: San Diego Posts: 8,560	thanks all, I am going to try to test drive that 6MT Integra this weekend. complaining start... Only problem is that it doesn't seem much of an upgrade over my GTI and for more money. Actually a downgrade on the engine 1.5T vs 2.0T. Seems like tech(and reliability) is the only upgrade.

03-03-2023, 06:51 PM	#17
wdc330i dogged Join Date: Dec 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: '22 M440 xDrive GC Posts: 13,289	Crosstreks are available with a stick, if you can find one. I think the newest models will be CVT only. They are pretty low on power through, and the manual is not supposed to be so great…

03-03-2023, 10:39 PM	#20
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,609	The 6MT hatchback Civics are hard to find and the Sport Touring (which has the 180 hp turbo engine) is 32.5; at that point, you’re probably better off with an Si.