12-09-2013, 11:06 AM | #351 | |
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and i'm following your lead. thanks! recent car i'm at the plateau for depreciation (E61) and the other one has already increased in value (the 3.2).
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12-09-2013, 11:08 AM | #352 | |
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You also have to have the time and the ability to fix shit when it breaks. I haven't been keeping track, but my sense is that you've done a number of things to the ZHP to keep it in good shape that might be beyond the time or ability of the average joe. Just thinking about the stuff that broke on my E61, the warm glow of BMW ownership would have worn off pretty quickly if I'd had to pay shop rates to get it fixed. |
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12-09-2013, 11:13 AM | #353 | |
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yeah. i know. i'm now "in it". but somehow it's easier knowing that a 4 year old car that sold for almost $70k.....anyway. and as for inflation adjustment, unless I'm using the wrong calculator, I think 911s are more expensive than in the mid-80s, when they were hand built. Targa in 1984 money adjusted to 2013 is $76k. It's unlikely that one can get a new 911 Targa for anything less than 85k. I just used an inflation calculator.
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12-09-2013, 11:26 AM | #354 | |
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The real problem is I can't afford the depreciation of buying a new BMW. I guess I could afford the payments on a $55k car but for it to be worth $30k in 5 years... I can't afford that. |
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12-09-2013, 12:37 PM | #355 | |
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12-09-2013, 01:15 PM | #356 | |
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in total, the modern 911 seems more expensive to me, based on what is going into it. i'm not arguing that the 1980s 911 was cheap. it's not. it's basically a hair dryer powering a car that had not changed since 1967.
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12-09-2013, 01:39 PM | #357 | |
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I'm not even sure I buy into the "over engineered" myth of 80s German cars and Porsches in particular. The current 991 has up to date engine, suspension and electronics. In fact porsche is leading the industry in some aspects now - for example their electric steering is considered the best. The air cooled 911s lagged in that regard. And as far as which one is "over built" I bet the modern one blows the old one away in terms if using high strength steel that wasn't available back then. You could also compare prices of a base cayman to a 944 and I think the cayman would come out favorably. So i think buyers get more than they did for their money back then due to intelligent platform sharing and better production techniques. Don't get me wrong - I love air cooled 911s but I think we view them (and other old cars) through rose tinted glasses. Last edited by robg; 12-09-2013 at 01:51 PM. |
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12-09-2013, 02:32 PM | #358 | |
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in my humble opinion, and this is the same for BMW, there is a clear line of demarcation where the era of engine rebuilds and disposable engines starts --and i think for Porsche that began in 1999.
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12-09-2013, 02:35 PM | #359 | |
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12-09-2013, 02:40 PM | #360 | |
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i will. (it's dirty as hell) every time i drive it, it's freaking dark outside (AM or PM). will do from garage on my way home.
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