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04-26-2019, 02:10 PM | #31 | |
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04-26-2019, 02:33 PM | #32 |
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I don't trust that I would have enough time between realizing that it's out of its depth and/or doing something wrong and being able to take over. As an isolated example, autopilot tends to brake later and harder than I otherwise would, meaning that I feel like by the time I knew it wasn't going to brake (if it wasn't), I'd be behind the curve, so to speak.
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04-26-2019, 03:15 PM | #33 | |
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04-26-2019, 03:20 PM | #34 | |
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But I think that's OK -- I tend to just take over if I feel its not reacting. Steering in particular is easy to take over from since my hands are on the wheel, and I just react. And "taking over" means just driving naturally. There's no big red button to push, I just drive and the car makes the disabling sound and I know I have control...
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04-27-2019, 10:30 AM | #35 | |||
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This thread is about full self driving - for which I agree 100% with you. But autopilot is different and doesn't belong in the same discussion. You can refuse to engage in my cruise control questions if you want, but I think you know it's a perfect analogy. Last edited by rumatt; 04-27-2019 at 10:47 AM. |
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04-27-2019, 03:06 PM | #37 |
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My limited personal experience, yes, coupled with my general theoretical understanding of the system’s limitations.
I tend to think that those limitations are not well understood, and that autopilot if used properly doesn’t do much to help the driver. But I suppose I could be wrong about that. |
04-27-2019, 04:57 PM | #38 | |
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04-27-2019, 05:01 PM | #39 | |
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That’s my sense as well - I think it would be less relaxing to have to carefully watch what the car is doing vs just driving myself. Kind of like driving with a student driver. Maybe in stop and go traffic id feel comfortable with it. |
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04-27-2019, 06:26 PM | #40 | |
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I'm not sure if you misunderstood what I was saying (given how you quoted me) or you're just being difficult.
On the off chance that it's the former, I'll clarify for the third time. I believe it's safe to use "Because I'm still 'driving' and I can override it any time I don't like what it is doing." I never claimed it's ready for self driving - only that I feel confident in overriding the system and taking responsibility for the end result. I also stated, "I use it in scenarios where I have a safe buffer time to react." You're a smart guy and I know you know exactly what I'm arguing. So unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it's the latter... in which case I have better things to do. Quote:
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