carmudgeons.com  

Go Back   carmudgeons.com > Automotive Forums > Car Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2019, 10:09 PM   #1
FC
Solving problems
 
FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: '18 M3 ZCP, '13 LR4, '11 Miata
Location: Greater Boston
Posts: 20,836
Thoughts on Miata & misc FC ramblings

My NC Miata

After 2.5 years and nearly 8k miles I thought it would be worthwhile to mention a few things besides the obvious car-review stuff.

On the one hand, the car is liberating in many respects. It is "old & cheap," and coupled with its rock-solid reliability, the ownership is guilt-free. If it sits unused, who cares? If I've not washed it, or gets another chip or ding, who cares? My wife (still refuses to drive the M3) doesn't mind driving it at all for those same reasons. Heck, it is my winter beater and a great one at that with winter tires on. Yet somehow it still manages to look pretty modern and not terribly "girly." Also doesn't look bad at all from 20' out.

But it is raw. The sport suspension and aftermarket front sway make for an incredibly flat and sporty suspension. It is loud and louder in the highway. Like the MCS, it is geared very short (making it crazy-fun in-town), exacerbating the issue. In this day and age, the tech/connectivity is ancient (maybe a good thing). I just threw in an old CD with over 100 of my favorite MP3's and that is good enough. It does have heated seats - which are great. Replacing the gross original steering wheel with a custom Nappa wheel may be the best ~$250 I've ever spent on a car. I love that I can leave it parked in the airport for days or squeeze it into a tight spot and not care.

I love that car. Sometimes all it does is make me feel like fool for getting the M3. In some ways it is more fun. It's also a fraction of the cost. It's ridiculous fun for the money and I'm happy to have it. It now even works overtime as a winter beater!

Other times I get in the M3 and, man, what a car. Having been spoiled with owning a 987S, I do appreciate that step up in quality, refinement, sound, power, etc. The spoiled/vane/stupid part of me thinks in a few years maybe I should get a 981S. Maybe "just" a 2019+ ND. My Miata is kind of beat up, unrefined and, well, YOLO.

Ramblings on the future

In our household, we feel the need to have a used car to take on city/winter beater/sketchy parking duties. At times it also helps to have a "low-profile" car. The Miata fills this role now, though somewhat poorly as a 2-seater with no cargo space. Ideally, it should be some kind of used 4-door Golf hatch variant that could double as the kids car eventually. For lack of a better word, let's call it the utility car.

Replacing the Miata with something else (anything from a newish ND to a late 981) would also require buying a utility car. That would mean 4 cars. That's the pickle. The Miata is a super-cheap way to check a lot of boxes, though certainly not all of them. It would be hard to justify replacing it with two cars before my oldest can drive (5 years from now). The FC 5-year plan making a comeback?

Wild thought... At such time, would it be sane to consider keeping the NC Miata and AutoX/track/Lemons-ing it with kids? Basically turn into a dedicated track thing of sorts that can also act as a project car for kids to mess with they have interest in that sort of thing. My wife would likely veto this (5 cars ).

Of course, this all assumes that the M3 and LR4 are hanging around indefinitely. I don't see why not, frankly. But there may be a point in the distant future (when kids are in college?) where a Boxster may be all I need and the M3 could go. The LR4 I do see keeping forever. It's pushing 6 years and we love it still (especially with the new tires I just put on it).

Last edited by FC; 04-12-2019 at 11:03 AM.
FC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 06:48 PM   #2
lemming
Eastern Promises
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: Blue Pig
Posts: 13,882
Quote:
Originally Posted by FC View Post
My NC Miata

After 2.5 years and nearly 8k miles I thought it would be worthwhile to mention a few things besides the obvious car-review stuff.

On the one hand, the car is liberating in many respects. It is "old & cheap," and coupled with its rock-solid reliability, the ownership is guilt-free. If it sits unused, who cares? If I've not washed it, or gets another chip or ding, who cares? My wife (still refuses to drive the M3) doesn't mind driving it at all for those same reasons. Heck, it is my winter beater and a great one at that with winter tires on. Yet somehow it still manages to look pretty modern and not terribly "girly." Also doesn't look bad at all from 20' out.

But it is raw. The sport suspension and aftermarket front sway make for an incredibly flat and sporty suspension. It is loud and louder in the highway. Like the MCS, it is geared very short (making it crazy-fun in-town), exacerbating the issue. In this day and age, the tech/connectivity is ancient (maybe a good thing). I just threw in an old CD with over 100 of my favorite MP3's and that is good enough. It does have heated seats - which are great. Replacing the gross original steering wheel with a custom Nappa wheel may be the best ~$250 I've ever spent on a car. I love that I can leave it parked in the airport for days or squeeze it into a tight spot and not care.

I love that car. Sometimes all it does is make me feel like fool for getting the M3. In some ways it is more fun. It's also a fraction of the cost. It's ridiculous fun for the money and I'm happy to have it. It now even works overtime as a winter beater!

Other times I get in the M3 and, man, what a car. Having been spoiled with owning a 987S, I do appreciate that step up in quality, refinement, sound, power, etc. The spoiled/vane/stupid part of me thinks in a few years maybe I should get a 981S. Maybe "just" a 2019+ ND. My Miata is kind of beat up, unrefined and, well, YOLO.

Ramblings on the future

In our household, we feel the need to have a used car to take on city/winter beater/sketchy parking duties. At times it also helps to have a "low-profile" car. The Miata fills this role now, though somewhat poorly as a 2-seater with no cargo space. Ideally, it should be some kind of used 4-door Golf hatch variant that could double as the kids car eventually. For lack of a better word, let's call it the utility car.

Replacing the Miata with something else (anything from a newish ND to a late 981) would also require buying a utility car. That would mean 4 cars. That's the pickle. The Miata is a super-cheap way to check a lot of boxes, though certainly not all of them. It would be hard to justify replacing it with two cars before my oldest can drive (5 years from now). The FC 5-year plan making a comeback?

Wild thought... At such time, would it be sane to consider keeping the NC Miata and AutoX/track/Lemons-ing it with kids? Basically turn into a dedicated track thing of sorts that can also act as a project car for kids to mess with they have interest in that sort of thing. My wife would likely veto this (5 cars ).

Of course, this all assumes that the M3 and LR4 are hanging around indefinitely. I don't see why not, frankly. But there may be a point in the distant future (when kids are in college?) where a Boxster may be all I need and the M3 could go. The LR4 I do see keeping forever. It's pushing 6 years and we love it still (especially with the new tires I just put on it).


I think your MX5 has been one of your better choices recently for the reasons you outlined. It wonít depreciate much and itís always fun.

That written, moving from an MX5 of the same vintage to a 987 is a no brainer, IMO.

Donít know what to say about the need for a low profile everyday car. Maybe after youíre bored with the M3 you find something that suits that bill.
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 09:38 PM   #3
FC
Solving problems
 
FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: '18 M3 ZCP, '13 LR4, '11 Miata
Location: Greater Boston
Posts: 20,836
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
I think your MX5 has been one of your better choices recently for the reasons you outlined. It wonít depreciate much and itís always fun.

That written, moving from an MX5 of the same vintage to a 987 is a no brainer, IMO.

Donít know what to say about the need for a low profile everyday car. Maybe after youíre bored with the M3 you find something that suits that bill.
The low-profile car is not for me. It would be for my wife and for certain situations. Primarily, itís the need for winter beater/small city car duties.
FC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 09:59 PM   #4
clyde
Chief title editor
 
clyde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 23,255
I kept waiting for the negative turning "but..."

I'm glad it never came.

There's no reason not to turn it into track car other than maybe it's not the best candidate, but so what? If the obejct is to have fin, tinker, learn, and such, there's plenty you can do with the car to make it better for that application. Most of it will probably make it less useful in other roles you described. But, again, so what?

Good problems to have, to be sure
__________________
OH NOES!!!!!1 MY CAR HAS T3H UND3R5T33R5555!!!!!!1oneone!!!!11

Team WTF?!
What are you gonna do?
clyde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2019, 08:39 PM   #5
3LOU5
Slacker Extraordinaire
 
3LOU5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,853
A CPO Miata is going to be my next car should my current E46 go tits up.
__________________
2016 Toyota Sienna SE - hers
2002 BMW 325i - his
1994 Chevrolet Silverado K1500 Sportside Z71 - whoevers vehicle is in the shop
2009 Harley-Davidson Sportster XL883 Low (Vivid Black) - his
2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster XL883 Low (Pearl White) - hers
2011 Tao Tao 50 - whoevers bike is in the shop
2007 Reinell 186 FNS - the dog's
1995 Fleetwood Flair 27R - EVERYBODY'S !
3LOU5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2019, 09:09 PM   #6
kognito
older fart than ZBB
 
kognito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the road again
Posts: 7,257
I wish I fit in a Miata
__________________
2017 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE
2016 Focus SE
kognito is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Misc BMW and MINI items SARAFIL The Marketplace 1 05-19-2009 11:36 AM
Misc thoughts from BMW showroom FC Car Talk 4 09-06-2006 10:57 PM
FS: E46 Coupe Misc. Items SCA The Marketplace 1 06-03-2005 11:53 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forums © 2003-2008, 'Mudgeon Enterprises - Site hosting by AYN & Associates, LLC