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Old 03-18-2019, 10:11 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by rumatt View Post
We are stuck in a loop. Can you help me break it?

1. You: other brands will make Model Y obsolete in 2 years
2. Me: the supercharger network will remain a huge differentiator for Tesla
3. You: supercharges aren't fast enough.
4. Me: Huh? At least they exist, and are vastly better than the competition
5. GOTO 1

You "give the nod" to the brand names despite them having vastly inferior charging networks? Do you not think being able to take a road trip in your car is important to EV car buyers?

Then you mentioned inconvenience of driving BOS - NYC which suggests you actually care a lot about road trips. Have you compared the experience of making that trip in a Tesla to all the other brands you're giving the "nod" to. Hint: it's a huge win for Tesla.

Then you mention theoretical max charging speed. Even if the Taycan can do a full charge in 30 minutes (we'll see if that plays out in the real world) it doesn't help you if there are no chargers on your route. Are you arguing that in the 2 year time-frame we're discussing there will be as many Porsche charging stations as there are Tesla Superchargers?
It's really hard to anticipate what Porsche is going to end up with. They claim 350 kW charging available at 300 locations by summer, as part of the $2B EPA settlement that VW entered into.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/p...ycan-charging/

If they manage that, I'll be impressed--but 300 locations is still not that many, nationwide. It looks like a pluarality of the investment will be happening in CA.

Here is a map of what they've got so far:

https://www.electrifyamerica.com/locate-charger

The V3 Supercharger is not as powerful (250 kW), but can still provide 75 miles of charge in 5 minutes.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-supe...-charge-speed/
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