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Old 07-16-2018, 05:12 PM   #1
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All I know is the three E46 330i/Cis I owned all had the same rack.
So, apparently that not even correct. There were *three* late model E46 330 steering racks. Only one rack went in the ZHP (the 712 rack). The ZHP rack was put into a lot of other 330s as well. One of the racks isn't even a ZF part.

And then, of course, there is the Camry rack that BMW stuck in the '01s, and the retrofit rack that replaced many of those. So at least five different E46 330 racks.
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:45 PM   #2
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So, apparently that not even correct. There were *three* late model E46 330 steering racks. Only one rack went in the ZHP (the 712 rack). The ZHP rack was put into a lot of other 330s as well. One of the racks isn't even a ZF part.

And then, of course, there is the Camry rack that BMW stuck in the '01s, and the retrofit rack that replaced many of those. So at least five different E46 330 racks.
I liked the Camry rack on the 2001 330i. I know I'm the only one.
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:55 PM   #3
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I liked the Camry rack on the 2001 330i. I know I'm the only one.
I find it exhausting to drive cars with light/fast on center steering.
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:44 PM   #4
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I find it exhausting to drive cars with light/fast on center steering.
That was my thought when I test drive a Evo VIII with two turns to lock
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:17 PM   #5
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I find it exhausting to drive cars with light/fast on center steering.
Completely agree. While I didn't mind ZHP steering, I didn't mind the slower (pre-update) e46 m3. I don't need the car to change a lane if I sneeze.

Boxsters and Caymans have a variable rack, slow around the middle, sensitive as you keep turning.
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:38 PM   #6
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I find it exhausting to drive cars with light/fast on center steering.
Thats my biggest complaint with the electro steering in the current 3 series cars (speaking specifically about my short term 335GT). Not only is it light with minimal feedback, but it is quick with very little dead zone. Every minor wobble of the wheel makes the car move. At least if you're going to make camry steering, make a big on center dead spot so you can wobble the wheel without changing directions.
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So, apparently that not even correct.
According to all the external markings, the turns lock to lock and the total travel, they were identical.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:41 PM   #8
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According to all the external markings, the turns lock to lock and the total travel, they were identical.
Three different part numbers, two different manufacturers.
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Three different part numbers, two different manufacturers.
Not on my three cars. Identical. I checked.
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Not on my three cars. Identical. I checked.
As noted previously, the 712 (ZHP) rack was installed on a lot of other cars. But it's not the only rack that came on non-ZHP 330s.
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