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Old 06-10-2019, 11:39 PM   #1431
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Not a bad looking vehicle I just say.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:18 AM   #1432
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It's great car. Considering what is out there, it's pretty great. What I did notice is that the engine throttle modes change not just the responsiveness, but also available power. Well, at least it noticeably affects how fast you accelerate. Sport+ gets a bit too jumpy for daily driving (at least with people in the car), which is a shame, because it is the only mode that disables auto-rev matching. It also makes the car burble like crazy. OTOH, comfort mode is a bit too numb, which is also a shame because it is the only mode that disables the burbles and makes the car sound "refined." (Note that the exhaust note was changed rather significantly with the ZCP and many considered it to be the best feature of the ZCP).

Another annoyance is that the car's default mode is Efficient for throttle (fine), but sport for suspension, which with the ZCP and 20" wheels is pretty harsh, so I always have to change out of it.

My M1 setting is sport throttle and comfort suspension and my M2 setting is Sport+ for throttle and Sport suspension. In all cases I use Sport for steering. I cannot imagine using Sport+ for suspension anywhere other than a track.

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Old 06-11-2019, 08:26 AM   #1433
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Not a bad looking vehicle I just say.
The rear fender flares are awesome.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:57 AM   #1434
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It sounds like Sport+ would be the exact opposite of what you'd want on a track, where precise throttle control is really important.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:11 AM   #1435
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It's great car. Considering what is out there, it's pretty great. What I did notice is that the engine throttle modes change not just the responsiveness, but also available power. Well, at least it noticeably affects how fast you accelerate. Sport+ gets a bit too jumpy for daily driving (at least with people in the car), which is a shame, because it is the only mode that disables auto-rev matching. It also makes the car burble like crazy. OTOH, comfort mode is a bit too numb, which is also a shame because it is the only mode that disables the burbles and makes the car sound "refined." (Note that the exhaust note was changed rather significantly with the ZCP and many considered it to be the best feature of the ZCP).

Another annoyance is that the car's default mode is Efficient for throttle (fine), but sport for suspension, which with the ZCP and 20" wheels is pretty harsh, so I always have to change out of it.

My M1 setting is sport throttle and comfort suspension and my M2 setting is Sport+ for throttle and Sport suspension. In all cases I use Sport for steering. I cannot imagine using Sport+ for suspension anywhere other than a track.

I'm sure there are code hackers that can change that all up for you...
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:18 AM   #1436
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The rear fender flares are awesome.
Oh yeah. The M3 looks better in this regards than the M4.

It would be totally wicked if it had front flares like this. But maybe they're saving that treat for the G80 variant.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:30 AM   #1437
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Oh yeah. The M3 looks better in this regards than the M4.

It would be totally wicked if it had front flares like this. But maybe they're saving that treat for the G80 variant.
That's awesome.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:58 AM   #1438
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Sport+ gets a bit too jumpy for daily driving (at least with people in the car), which is a shame, because it is the only mode that disables auto-rev matching.
Would make more sense (to me) if they'd let the driver turn rev-matching on/off as desired. There may be a valid reason for it (?), but making it non-selectable and strictly mode-specific sounds a lot like they don't trust you to make your own decisions. That's a poor user experience.

What happens when you're in one of the modes where it's turned on, and you attempt to rev-match on your own? Does your right foot override the computer?
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:33 PM   #1439
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Would make more sense (to me) if they'd let the driver turn rev-matching on/off as desired. There may be a valid reason for it (?), but making it non-selectable and strictly mode-specific sounds a lot like they don't trust you to make your own decisions. That's a poor user experience.

What happens when you're in one of the modes where it's turned on, and you attempt to rev-match on your own? Does your right foot override the computer?
Yes, but there can be a bit of a lag or a funny feeling of non-response since the car is going to the exact rev and you are approximating it. In effect, you are just getting in the way of the car. I still do it myself and most of the time it's transparent, but there are times when I "miss" and I notice it. There are other times when I take advantage of it instead of trying to heel-and-toe.
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Old 06-23-2019, 11:23 AM   #1440
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Just washed them up and used sonax netshield on them. They look pretty good considering one is 20yrs old and the other has 100k miles. First time I tried a synthetic clay bar too.. It worked very well.
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