07-13-2020, 06:35 PM | #1 |
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Any thoughts on the X3 hybrid? I know it's a weirdo iteration of hybrid, but it might actually work well for my use case (mostly short trips with a few long hauls for vacation once or twice a year.)
It gets that awkward ledge in the rear cargo area that X3s with spare tires also get, which isn't great. But, I could probably live with that--as I would have no doubt ordered a spare tire in any X3 I'd spec (isn't available for the hybrid.) I also wonder about the ramifications of their having moved the gas tank rearward. I hope they crash tested that scenario...or perhaps they learned something from the X5 implementation. The federal tax credit is some $5,800k and change... Last edited by wdc330i; 07-13-2020 at 06:45 PM. |
07-13-2020, 07:03 PM | #2 |
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The 5 series hybrid I had as a loaner was a bad joke. It had a fully charged range of something like 12 miles, and it took forever to charge. In the real world, it absolutely could not make it through my daily 11 mile commute.
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The X3 is supposed to be able to charge on a 110, and also allow fast charging on a more powerful hookup. Six hours for the 110, allegedly. A range of only about 20 miles. But that's a full run around day for me. |
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BMW plug-ins seem like a bad idea to me. A company renown for unreliable electronics. Plus added weight. Plus minimal range.
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07-14-2020, 10:19 AM | #5 | |
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I wish I were into leasing cars, because--keeping in mind your points--I wouldn't want a longterm commitment with any interim tech car. The Toyota Rav4 Prime looks kind of interesting. Maybe the Mini Countryman All4 plug-in... I am really liking the idea of this quasi thing where you have local EV range and a boost to overall gas mileage. I do not trust the power grid enough where I live to be 100% reliant on an EV. And I like the flexibility of power choice. |
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07-14-2020, 10:27 AM | #6 |
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I've written about this. I don't know how common our use case is, but a PHEV is a great option for us. Most of our trips are less than 15 mi. round trip, a few more are less than 30 mi. round trip, and most of the rest are >100 mi. That puts us right in the wheelhouse of the current, updated gen of X3, GLC, etc. that allegedly offer >30 mi. EV range.
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07-14-2020, 12:49 PM | #9 |
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I really like the PHEV idea with about 50 miles of primary e range for daily use + the ability to parallel the gas engine for added power and to make it to the lake house on the wekened.
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07-14-2020, 01:09 PM | #10 |
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The X5 xDrive 45e will get close to 30. Only the RAV4 promises a bit more (42). But not out yet for real world evaluation.
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