Summit Point

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Is that a newer merc SL? Hard to see on my phone .

Mustang.

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by FC

That's horrifying and frankly, poor design and/or construction. The loads have to be properly transferred to the chassis.

I believe that's an Autopower roll bar. So, you know, mass produced and something that should have slightly more engineering effort than a random dude in his back yard. But, apparently not.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by JST

Wait, did you see pics from somewhere else?

Yes. You were not the only person I'm friends with that was there.

The C8 is dramatic in person, but I don't know...it doesn't really do anything for me. The styling is kind of weird and overwrought and the car is HUGE. And there's something about the back end that looks like they finished the car and then Marketing told them they needed room for golf clubs, so they just stapled a Camaro trunk on it and called it a day.

Also, it's auto-only.

I'm not a super fan of the C8 looks. Unlike most of you, I am no longer hung up on transmissions in modern cars (think we talked about this in a recent thread).

My comment was focused more on the car itself. I'm more curious about it than I am about the exotic stuff.

[John V]

I'm surprised there isn't more cracking-down on illegal tax avoidance schemes like the Montana plates thing. I guess when you're rich enough, the rules no longer apply.

Cool on the track day. I feel like I remember seeing track-day posts from you more recently than 2012 but I guess not. I'd have to go through old photos to be sure, but I think my last track day was in 1999, not including karts.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by John V

I'm surprised there isn't more cracking-down on illegal tax avoidance schemes like the Montana plates thing. I guess when you're rich enough, the rules no longer apply.

*cough*Maine*cough*trailer*cough*tags*cough*

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by John V

I'm surprised there isn't more cracking-down on illegal tax avoidance schemes like the Montana plates thing. I guess when you're rich enough, the rules no longer apply.

Cool on the track day. I feel like I remember seeing track-day posts from you more recently than 2012 but I guess not. I'd have to go through old photos to be sure, but I think my last track day was in 1999, not including karts.

Sitting in front of rich people neighborhoods waiting for a once-a-week driven car is a lot harder than parking outside an apartment complex.

[JST]

Originally Posted by John V

I'm surprised there isn't more cracking-down on illegal tax avoidance schemes like the Montana plates thing. I guess when you're rich enough, the rules no longer apply.

Cool on the track day. I feel like I remember seeing track-day posts from you more recently than 2012 but I guess not. I'd have to go through old photos to be sure, but I think my last track day was in 1999, not including karts.

It's frustrating, on the tax stuff--Virginia law applies to cars "garaged" here, not just registered here, so in theory you can and should pay taxes even on cars registered to Montana LLCs (or your beach house in Delaware or whatever). And Virginia does have inspectors that look out for this; I got tagged with a ticket in 1998 when I was here for the summer and my car had MI plates.

But, as with everything else, the rich are different. If you park your car on the street or in an apartment building lot (like me in 1998), the inspectors can find you. If you have it in a garage or off-street somewhere, it's a lot harder for them to ID it as a non-conforming car.

[John V]

Originally Posted by clyde

*cough*Maine*cough*trailer*cough*tags*cough*

One hundred percent legal. Unlike the Montana LLC thing.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by John V

One hundred percent legal. Unlike the Montana LLC thing.

My understanding on the trailer thing with Maryland is that you can register a trailer in other states as long as you have an equal or greater number of trailers registered in Maryland.

It seems that enforcement is not a big thing, but I've heard a couple vague internet stories recently about insurance companies not covering trailers or the vehicles/contents being towed if the trailers were not compliant with the statute.

https://law.justia.com/codes/marylan...i/sect-13-402/

Originally Posted by MD Code

(f) A trailer or semitrailer operated in intrastate service need not be registered in this State if:

(1) It is registered in another state;

(2) The truck tractor or other vehicle that is towing it is registered in this State; and

(3) The registered owner of the truck tractor or other towing vehicle has at least one trailer or semitrailer registered in this State for each truck tractor also registered in this State.

I'm not a law talking guy, so....

[ZBB]

Originally Posted by nate

That looks like fun.

I'd like to do a track day again. It's been forever.

What are the options here? My last track day was in ‘14 at Laguna Seca

On the Montana thing... I used to see a lot of MT and Oregon plates in AZ, especially on exotics. AZ also has a form of property tax on cars (although it’s called a Vehicle License Tax), and its based on the base MSRP of the car when new, then drops about 20% each year...

I think OR was popular since they don’t have sales taxes, so helped on the cost when a car was new.

Not sure how AZ enforced it... was probably pretty lax — although I wouldn’t be surprised if they added a violation of pulled over for speeding or another reason and you handed over an AZ license...