04-09-2012, 03:08 PM | #11 |
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I'm almost positive the mileage for the BRZ/FRS is 21 city and 30 highway, but they require the premium fuel. So, subjectively okay depending on how you view that.
The numbers that Jeff posted were very similar to, though slightly less than what the Subaru dealer quoted me. With MD taxes, it pushed the price to barely under $29k. I know the Scion can be had for less than $27k including taxes/all out the door. Is what you posted about the next M3 true? 3100 lbs?!?!? I know I cannot afford one, but I like that number. |
04-09-2012, 03:24 PM | #12 | |
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I imagine that the M3 will use even more aluminum than the base car already does, but are they really going to be able to get a 300lb net loss over the base car even after adding 2 cylinders, an extra turbo, bigger brakes, beefier driveline components, and so on? I doubt it. Not unless they strap a dirigible to the roof. I would be happy with 3400 lbs (i.e., no net weight gain over the base car), which I think is far more realistic. |
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04-09-2012, 04:20 PM | #15 |
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The M3 LTW is something like 400 poounds lighter than the stock M3.
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04-09-2012, 05:02 PM | #16 |
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The article is wrong. It does not have Prius tires. This rumor has been refuted by the people who have gone to dealerships to look at the cars.
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04-09-2012, 06:21 PM | #17 |
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Interesting. So what does it have?
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04-09-2012, 06:26 PM | #18 |
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According to this, they are the same tires as a JDM performance package (?!) on the Prius. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4183
C/D actually notes this distinction in the article, FWIW. There may be more to this story but I have now reached the limit of things I can read about Priuses this month. |
04-09-2012, 06:34 PM | #19 |
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Michelin Primacy HP. Tire rack lists it as a "Summer touring tire."
The confusion comes from the fact that the Primacy HP is available in the Japan market as the Prius Performance Package. Not offered on any US Prius. It's sold on more than one BMW and Mercedes US model as OE fitment. Not saying it's necessarily a great tire, but saying it's a Prius tire is misleading and incorrect. |
04-09-2012, 10:07 PM | #20 |
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No it's not. It may be a little misleading not to include the disclaimer that it's an optional Prius tire not available in the US, but it's not incorrect--it's a tire available on the Prius, and according to the Toyota engineer that C/D interviewed, it was chosen in part because it doesn't have a huge amount of grip.
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