carmudgeons.com  

Go Back   carmudgeons.com > Automotive Forums > Car Talk > Perseverators Anonymous

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-12-2014, 08:56 AM   #41
bren
lawn boy
 
bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: e46m3, f25x3,C5 Z06, C4 Vette, 06 CTD Ram, and a trailer
Location: Maryland
Posts: 14,031
bren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 06:42 PM   #42
ff
.
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,750
Quote:
Originally Posted by John V View Post
So it's for the person who wants a vehicle that can do it all... badly.
That doesn't even make sense. Unless you're inferring that I should own 5 purpose-built vehicles so that I never have to make compromises for any given task?

I'm trying to think of a vehicle that does a better job of fulfilling "trucky" + family + TCOA duties better than the last gen. 4Runner. If I ever think of one, I'll let you know.
ff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 07:29 PM   #43
bren
lawn boy
 
bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: e46m3, f25x3,C5 Z06, C4 Vette, 06 CTD Ram, and a trailer
Location: Maryland
Posts: 14,031
Top Car Of America(?)

Jeep Grand Cherokee, Durango, any full sized pickup - all of which are a lot cheaper.
bren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 08:03 PM   #44
John V
I only like old BMWs.
 
John V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Carmudgeonly Ride: 987S, Ram, MS3, 330Ci, CX-5, RX-8
Location: Glenwood, MD
Posts: 12,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by bren View Post
Top Car Of America(?)

Jeep Grand Cherokee, Durango, any full sized pickup - all of which are a lot cheaper.
Right. The current crop of unibody utility vehicles have just as much room, can tow the same amount of weight but turn, accelerate and stop better and get better mileage. And are less expensive.

That's why the 4Runner makes no sense to me. But if you like it you don't need to justify it to me.
John V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 08:08 PM   #45
Jeff_DML
Old Fart
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Carmudgeonly Ride: turbo,T4R
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,548
Quote:
Originally Posted by John V View Post
Right. The current crop of unibody utility vehicles have just as much room, can tow the same amount of weight but turn, accelerate and stop better and get better mileage. And are less expensive.

That's why the 4Runner makes no sense to me. But if you like it you don't need to justify it to me.
this is where I would want a 4-runner



baja, we basically destroyed our rented highlander 4x4 there over xmas. Sorry pic is not of the rougher stuff.
Jeff_DML is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #46
ff
.
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,750
I suspect that you're referring to the newest 4Runner. I'm talking about the last gen 4Runner.
ff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 08:33 PM   #47
ff
.
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,750
Quote:
Originally Posted by bren View Post
Top Car Of America(?)

Jeep Grand Cherokee, Durango, any full sized pickup - all of which are a lot cheaper.
I recall the Jeep being more expensive than our 4Runner at the same point in time. The Durango I didn't (wouldn't) even consider. And what about maintenance + resale factors? I'll bet that's where it leaves the models you mentioned in the dust.


(Total Cost Of Ownership)
ff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 08:56 PM   #48
John V
I only like old BMWs.
 
John V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Carmudgeonly Ride: 987S, Ram, MS3, 330Ci, CX-5, RX-8
Location: Glenwood, MD
Posts: 12,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by ff View Post
I suspect that you're referring to the newest 4Runner. I'm talking about the last gen 4Runner.
And the last gen JGC, and Durango, apparently.
John V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 08:59 PM   #49
bren
lawn boy
 
bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: e46m3, f25x3,C5 Z06, C4 Vette, 06 CTD Ram, and a trailer
Location: Maryland
Posts: 14,031
Oh, so now you're involving time travel?

I guess that makes sense since the development of that thing basically halted several years ago.

I don't know about your tco calculations, but I'd wager that a Wrangler Unlimited would put up a good fight.
bren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2014, 09:31 PM   #50
John V
I only like old BMWs.
 
John V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Carmudgeonly Ride: 987S, Ram, MS3, 330Ci, CX-5, RX-8
Location: Glenwood, MD
Posts: 12,230
h8r.
John V is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forums 2003-2008, 'Mudgeon Enterprises - Site hosting by AYN & Associates, LLC