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Old 08-06-2020, 02:15 PM   #11
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Accord sport with 6mt?
No longer available. Production ended in December.
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:24 PM   #12
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No longer available. Production ended in December.
Are you sure about that? Granted, I didn't dig that hard, but I can't find any articles saying that, and you can build one on the Honda site.
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:37 PM   #13
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...-need-manuals/

I agree with a lot of these. And it's tragic that the 3er is on that list.
On another forum, there was an exchange about the Supra that made me LOL.

"The Supra would never have existed if the Camry hadn't been so successful."

"BMW makes the Camry?"

"They call it a 3-series"

Kind of sums up my feelings about BMW these days.
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:39 PM   #14
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Are you sure about that? Granted, I didn't dig that hard, but I can't find any articles saying that, and you can build one on the Honda site.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...-discontinued/
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I disagree with the two Ford 1/2 ton pick up trucks on that list.

I guess if you are never going to tow, or go off road you could argue it needs a stick option. (why does R&T even care about these vehicles?)
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:48 PM   #16
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Supra needs a MT option badly. Always thought that alfa 4c should too but it is EOF.
Something inside me says that was more BMW telling them that so that did not poach to many sales.
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:52 PM   #17
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I I would have strongly considered a manual M2 vert.
I posted elsewhere that I might have strongly gone that route if it existed. It would have itched both my practicality nature (4 seats in a pinch) and my need for open air (which is why I was also cross shopping the Boxster - although that come down to the ridiculous 981 S GTS used market pricing for a now oldish car).
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Old 08-06-2020, 03:19 PM   #18
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it didnt sound too exciting from the reviews I read, 6MT yes but paired with floppy stock accord suspension. They should of offered a sport suspension paired with it and front LSD.
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Old 08-06-2020, 03:29 PM   #19
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it didnt sound too exciting from the reviews I read, 6MT yes but paired with floppy stock accord suspension. They should of offered a sport suspension paired with it and front LSD.
This is my general issue with companies not properly catering to our subset of the market. They offer a wagon with an anemic engine then say, no one wanted a wagon... They offer a stick with a garbage rest of the the suspension and drive train layout then say 'no one wanted a stick'.

Offer a wagon with a good engine (THANK YOU MERCEDES, just get your suspension right). Offer a stick on the sportiest models, and offer it at cost + option if you want to. I'd gladly pay more to help cover the cost of certification.
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Old 08-06-2020, 03:36 PM   #20
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This is my general issue with companies not properly catering to our subset of the market. They offer a wagon with an anemic engine then say, no one wanted a wagon... They offer a stick with a garbage rest of the the suspension and drive train layout then say 'no one wanted a stick'.

Offer a wagon with a good engine (THANK YOU MERCEDES, just get your suspension right). Offer a stick on the sportiest models, and offer it at cost + option if you want to. I'd gladly pay more to help cover the cost of certification.
Amen.

Of course, this inevitably leads to the ridiculous situation of not having homogenized global safety standards, but that is sort of a different rant.
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