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Old 07-17-2020, 09:09 PM   #11
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Interesting. I'm a big fan of Michelins because of the build quality (I've had several excellent experiences with the brand), so that you like your Hankooks better than other options means something. I'll give them a close look.
I’ve had a lot of uneven experiences with Michelin. In particular, the high end Michelin tires don’t last. The usable lifespan of a Pilot Super Sport is 12 to 24 months. At some point in there, they get HARD and noisy and lose their grip. I like the Pilot Sport A/S3+ fairly well, and the LTX all seasons are great.

So, the Michelin PSS is better than the Hankook for about a year. After that year, it’s garbage. I say this as someone with a set of 75% tread PSSes on the rack that will get trashed when I get around to reusing the wheels they are on.
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:01 PM   #12
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Pilot Sports came on my car. Had a slow leak and didn’t want to do two sets to deal with winter, so swapped out to A/S+. Totally happy with them. Precise handling, year round capabilities and no real sacrifice over running summers.

I had them on my E91 wagon, and their predecessor on my M3. Totally happy with them as a year round solution in places that don’t get a lot of snow.

With a lesser car, I would absolutely and have previously bought the DWS. Also a great tire. Not sure you really need their snow worthiness in FLA, though.
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:31 AM   #13
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5 years ago, I would have said this too.

I now live within a 20 mile radius of 5 of their production plants and their North American headquarters. Heck, I drive by Michelin Blvd 4-5 times a week.

I'm no longer a fan
I spent a week in their lab in SC a couple of years ago. My last company sold (sells) millions in test equipment to Michelin and other tire manufacturers every year. As I understand it, they primarily make truck/SUV tires in the US.

I still feel Michelin is at the cutting edge of tire technology. Not to say they are necessarily ahead of other reputable manufacturers, but they tend to produce a very well-rounded tire (no pun intended).
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:12 AM   #14
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I spent a week in their lab in SC a couple of years ago. My last company sold (sells) millions in test equipment to Michelin and other tire manufacturers every year. As I understand it, they primarily make truck/SUV tires in the US.

I still feel Michelin is at the cutting edge of tire technology. Not to say they are necessarily ahead of other reputable manufacturers, but they tend to produce a very well-rounded tire (no pun intended).
That would have been a very interesting visit for me too.

My statement has more to do with interactions have had with production workers. It doesn't take much to press a green or red button
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Production workers are almost entirely disconnected from the quality of the output for this sort of thing.
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:38 AM   #16
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I'm not. Had issues with audible and physical tire wobble right from the start. One tire also makes a metallic grinding noise that changes frequency with your speed. These are also $272/each right now, which is at the high end of the range of all tires available to me. No thanks.
That is an expensive OEM tire, I just paid $250 each mounted and balanced on the 340, I think they are Conti's ...

I always like the Conti's I've had plus I like the fact their tires are not heavy where Bridgestones usually are on the heavy side. On a car like the Honda with a 4 cylinder engine tire weight might have an effect on performance though I don't know if you care about that type of thing.

I just remember the nightmare I went through with wheel and tire weights when I had the E46 330i ... it really made a difference.

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Old 07-18-2020, 10:52 PM   #17
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I have to 2nd the General Altimax RT43. We had those on my wife's CR-V for a couple years before we sold it. They were outstanding tires for the price and worlds better than the OEM Bridgestone garbage tires on our newer CR-V.

I have cheap Kumho all-seasons on my FR-S for around town driving, and they're only okay.
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I appreciate the recommendations, everyone. Thanks!
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