01-28-2019, 08:28 AM | #21 |
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01-28-2019, 09:04 AM | #22 |
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I'm obviously a fan of manual transmissions, but I don't get why people seek them out in trucks or SUV's, particularly when towing.
a) I don't see myself excited about shifting when driving in those scenarios b) a torque converter has real advantages. |
01-28-2019, 09:20 AM | #23 |
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I agree. She's currently driving 2002 Ford Explorer with a stick. Surely there's no joy in that.
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01-28-2019, 09:58 AM | #24 |
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Yeah I would worried about burning my clutch up towing.
My friend’s dad had a manual transmission Range Rover that he would tow a boat with and went through a bunch of clutches on it. Not sure if was any good at using it though. |
01-28-2019, 10:00 AM | #25 |
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Apparently those vintage manual Land Rovers command beaucoup $$$$.
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01-28-2019, 10:18 AM | #26 |
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They want the full sensory experience of rowing gears in a 1970's U-Haul, without having to buy a U-Haul? That's the only thing I can think of.
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01-28-2019, 11:27 AM | #27 | |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery It was also rusting out too from being backed into the ocean to drop off the boat(still not a excuse for rusting I think) He took it hunting too, was kind of cool to see it being properly used. |
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01-28-2019, 11:47 AM | #28 |
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01-28-2019, 01:31 PM | #29 | |
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I owned a 91 exploder 5 speed, then a 93 exploder with automatic transmission. Same six cylinder engine, both 4x4, same wheelbase. The automatic could tow almost double what the 5 speed could, at least according to Ford's numbers . . .I never tried towing with the 5 speed but used the automatic to tow my 21 foot boat Maybe it was just that Ford clutches suxs! lol
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01-28-2019, 02:19 PM | #30 | |
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Anecdotally.. a buddy of mine has an early 2000's F250 7.3 turbodiesel with a 6-speed transmission (incidentally, the same ZF that was used in the later C4 Corvette). The last time I drove that truck, we were towing a 3,500lb (empty!) trailer with two small cars on it, so figure around 8,500lbs with gear. Plus the weight of the truck (6,000lbs?) and four passengers plus a bed full of crap... it was pretty heavy rolling down the road. I actually really liked the manual for that tow. Automatics like to hunt gears and being able to select a gear and hold it for long grades (up or down) is really nice. But this was back before automatics had 6 or more ratios. These days, there's just no point to towing with a stick anymore. I don't recall him going through clutches, but with over 300,000 miles on that truck the manual transmission was certainly not a weak point. |
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