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Old 05-31-2018, 12:51 PM   #31
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Old 05-31-2018, 01:03 PM   #32
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I would absolutely consider an RS Q7 that leverages the TTV8 from the other large RS cars.
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Old 05-31-2018, 01:22 PM   #33
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Yeah, which just begs the question of why the hell you'd buy a GL/Q7 instead of a Suburban?
Well, they have vastly nicer interiors, I have to imagine. The newest Suburbans are very nice compared to what they were ten years ago, but you're always aware you're driving something pretty low-rent, despite the >$50k MSRP. I have to imagine a Q7 has a pretty baller interior.

As to Josh's question about why not rent... Renting is a hassle. It's the part of our yearly trip planning that I dread the most. Renting a full-size SUV is also insanely expensive.

Like Josh I really don't get the appeal of big SUVs. A pickup truck is better at hauling stinky / messy stuff (er, minus children, which are both stinky and messy), and a minivan is better at hauling people with their stuff. But people like SUVs. I like small sports cars for regular driving and I like my pickup for towing.
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Old 05-31-2018, 01:26 PM   #34
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Well, they have vastly nicer interiors, I have to imagine. The newest Suburbans are very nice compared to what they were ten years ago, but you're always aware you're driving something pretty low-rent, despite the >$50k MSRP. I have to imagine a Q7 has a pretty baller interior.

As to Josh's question about why not rent... Renting is a hassle. It's the part of our yearly trip planning that I dread the most. Renting a full-size SUV is also insanely expensive.

Like Josh I really don't get the appeal of big SUVs. A pickup truck is better at hauling stinky / messy stuff (er, minus children, which are both stinky and messy), and a minivan is better at hauling people with their stuff. But people like SUVs. I like small sports cars for regular driving and I like my pickup for towing.
If we're going fancy, I actually think the Escalade interior is pretty nice (leather dash, etc.), plus they handle well with the magnetic suspension. One reason for choosing a GL or Q7 (Q7 is actually quite a bit smaller than the MB - more like the Volvo), is parking in the city. I could fit the Audi into our parking spots and parallel park on the street almost as easily as I can with the X5. A tahoe-sized GM is problematic for that. I understand my use case is fairly unique.

Edit: one point in favor of the GL is that you can get it with real engines, not this 300+hp nonsense from Audi.
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Old 05-31-2018, 01:56 PM   #35
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Yeah, which just begs the question of why the hell you'd buy a GL/Q7 instead of a Suburban?
The Suburban is huge, it is definitely the next size up compared to the GL (almost 2 feet bigger). I like the Suburban and have taken a few road trips with them and they are really comfortable driving vehicles but it is really IMO in a different category than the other two vehicles.

I know you don't like the GL's but I've got to tell you, having 3 of them in the past they are really great vehicles for the family and the snob factor doesn't hurt


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I have not driven a Q7 but I've driven Q3s and Q5s. Garbage.
Have you driven the redesigned 2018 Q5 ? It is really great, much better then the previous generation ... great power, really nice handling, beautiful interior, etc. I've had a few of them as loaners and always walk away impressed.

I've also driven my brother 2018 SQ5 ... now that thing is fun ... for an SUV

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Edit: one point in favor of the GL is that you can get it with real engines, not this 300+hp nonsense from Audi.
Mercedes did make one mistake and they got rid of the 8 Cylinder in the GLS450. Even though they say the 6 Cylinder is just as good if not better I always liked the feel and sound of the 8.
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I don't disagree that the Suburban is physically (much) larger. I'm just saying that it *drives* a lot smaller than a GL.
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Old 05-31-2018, 07:38 PM   #37
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I don't disagree that the Suburban is physically (much) larger. I'm just saying that it *drives* a lot smaller than a GL.


Agree with AF on killing off the V8.

But I still love the Escalade.

GM does the GMT900s well.
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