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Old 06-05-2023, 03:27 PM   #31
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Then there's the upcoming 5 sedan.
That's what I meant. The new i5 IS the new 5er. There is no platform distinction between a gas or electric new 5er.

There is the fast, ///M-ish i5 M60, btu there is the vanilla i5 edrive40 or whatever it's called. All the room with a bit more range and less cost. Less than an an electric Macan, I'm sure.
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Old 06-05-2023, 03:29 PM   #32
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That's what I meant. The new i5 IS the new 5er. There is no platform distinction between a gas or electric new 5er.

There is the fast, ///M-ish i5 M60, btu there is the vanilla i5 edrive40 or whatever it's called. All the room with a bit more range and less cost.
Understood. I was just thinking in my head the ICE or PHEV version rather than the full-on EV.
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Old 06-05-2023, 03:49 PM   #33
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Understood. I was just thinking in my head the ICE or PHEV version rather than the full-on EV.

It will launch at first with gas 530 and 540 and the electric i5 e40 and M60. Next year adding hybrids - 550e and M560.
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Old 06-05-2023, 04:47 PM   #34
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The EV6 and Mach E are both available in a bewildering variety of configurations with widely differing ranges.

GT to GT, the Mustang is rated at 270 and the Kia at 206. That’s what I was looking at.

Each also has a non-GT AWD version with better range; for the Kia it’s 282 and for the Mustang it’s 290. That’s not a lot worse and in the real world is probably about the same. But that’s not the model I’d buy, for either of them.
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Old 06-05-2023, 04:47 PM   #35
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but maybe a BMW 330e? Doesn't have very impressive battery range but would still be pretty efficient and seems like it might check many of your boxes. I think the regular 3 series is still reasonably good looking. I do really like the A4 allroad as a nice all-rounder... and Audi manages to squeeze pretty good mileage out of their 4 cylinder + DSG combo.

And if you're willing to consider small crossovers there's the Q5e. Last I looked, Audi was offering a 7500 lease incentive on them. Again, not the best electric range but worth looking into.
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:16 PM   #36
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It will launch at first with gas 530 and 540 and the electric i5 e40 and M60. Next year adding hybrids - 550e and M560.
I just googled it and it seems they are dropping the 8 cylinder engine


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Audi manages to squeeze pretty good mileage out of their 4 cylinder + DSG combo.
I think I got 29mpg on a road trip in my Daughters A4 ... excellent Highway vehicle ... actually I should say excellent overall vehicle.

I would also cast a Vote for the A5 Sportback.
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Old 06-05-2023, 06:23 PM   #37
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The EV6 and Mach E are both available in a bewildering variety of configurations with widely differing ranges.

GT to GT, the Mustang is rated at 270 and the Kia at 206. That’s what I was looking at.

Each also has a non-GT AWD version with better range; for the Kia it’s 282 and for the Mustang it’s 290. That’s not a lot worse and in the real world is probably about the same. But that’s not the model I’d buy, for either of them.
This feels like it’s too soon to embrace the EV revolution

Charging doesn’t seem sorted out and the options seem ‘meh’

Or am I reading this situation incorrectly?
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Old 06-05-2023, 06:46 PM   #38
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I just googled it and it seems they are dropping the 8 cylinder engine
I know off topic but driving my car home today from the office I could not help but feel a little down knowing the next model won't have the 8 Cylinder ... I can only imagine how Fil feels knowing he has 2 of the 8 Cylinder BMW's

With that said FC if you are reading this, my overall average since I got my car is 15mpg. I know you are considering one for your commute.
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Old 06-05-2023, 07:09 PM   #39
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On a side note (Tesla wise for me anyway)....

Driving around town over the weekend, I saw my first Tesla (first that I can remember anyway) that had that 'beater' look. It was a white one (one of the newer models) that had the passenger door all caved in and the rear bumper cover hanging half off... and would pose a threat to a wayward pedestrian or close car in a parking lot. Can't ever remember seeing a Tesla in distress before. Really stood out to me....
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The one thing that has stood out to me is that regardless of what we seem to think about these cars, the folks that have them tended to keep them in shape. The only other time I saw one remotely close to that condition was on the back of a tow truck.
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On a side note (Tesla wise for me anyway)....

Driving around town over the weekend, I saw my first Tesla (first that I can remember anyway) that had that 'beater' look. It was a white one (one of the newer models) that had the passenger door all caved in and the rear bumper cover hanging half off... and would pose a threat to a wayward pedestrian or close car in a parking lot. Can't ever remember seeing a Tesla in distress before. Really stood out to me....
Sorry - no pics....

The one thing that has stood out to me is that regardless of what we seem to think about these cars, the folks that have them tended to keep them in shape. The only other time I saw one remotely close to that condition was on the back of a tow truck.


Yeah kinda makes sense. Early model s cars are now around 10 years old


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