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04-01-2022, 12:30 PM | #23 |
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Yeah, I mean if I were in the market for something like a 911 Turbo I think I'd just buy a Tesla. You get to go nearly as fast or faster (depending on the model) and they're both really just about straight line speed anyway.
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04-01-2022, 12:47 PM | #24 |
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This recent news below is all but certain to push mild hybridization even further.
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Totally different cars.
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04-01-2022, 01:11 PM | #26 |
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04-01-2022, 01:42 PM | #27 |
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The Turbo S is about more than straight line speed though —it can brake as well. Not sure a Tesla can say that?
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04-01-2022, 01:55 PM | #29 |
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I think a Tesla can break sooner and better.
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04-01-2022, 01:56 PM | #30 | |
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I really dont understand the objection to adding mild hybrid systems to modern turbocharged cars. Its not like it somehow dilutes the "purity" of the experience...mostly what mild hybrid systems do is make the car feel better in everyday traffic situations by remvoing any sort of lag from a start. They also serve to make start/stop systems not suck (you dont even notice it). Not much weight penalty either. And with the better designed systems, it's neutral in terms of added complexity since they are able to ditch the traditional starter motor (which is another cool thing about these mild hybrid systems--ultra quick and smooth starts with no "cranking"). Having a hard time seeing the downsides here... |
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