Tesla shitcanning showrooms and service centers... - Page 6

robg · 03-05-2019, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt

https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/tesla...it-and-switch/

"This behavior feels more like the standard dealership experience of everyone getting different prices for no particular reason"

Yep. Another point of confusion not addressed in the article is that they also re-jiggered the option packages such that "Autopilot" now is just adaptive cruise + lane keeping while "Full Self Driving" includes navigate on autopilot, auto park and summon.

Then again, I never understood why anyone would pay thousands upfront for a vaguely defined option that might never see the light of day. Always seemed more like a thinly veiled "gofundme" type of thing where you could donate money to Tesla.

rumatt · 03-05-2019, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

I did, didn't I?

I posted this here mostly for you.

ZBB · 03-05-2019, 06:15 PM

I’m not sure what the fuss is about...

Matt and I purchased “Enhanced Auto Pilot”, which was $5k at order or $6k to add later. Full Self Driving was another $3k, and we didn’t purchase it due to phantom ware (and it could be enabled later for $5k). With EAP, we get traffic aware cruise control, autosteer, and “navigate on autopilot” on highways. FSD was never fully defined, but total cost was $8k at order, or $10-$11k if activated after delivery.

Now they have flipped the pricing, and dropped the word “enhanced”. Autopilot includes just TACC and Autosteer for $3k at order/$4k later. FSD is now $5k at order /$7k later and includes Navigate on Autopilot now (highway version now/city streets version later), with stop light/sign recognition coming. Total cost is still $8k at order or $10-11k later.

And Tesla has thrown us current owners a bone... we can now add FSD for only $3k, not $5k. And they have defined that it will include Nav on Autopilot for city streets and the stop light/sign recognition. Still phantomware for now, but no more price penalty (for now at least...)

Tesla has dropped prices. Big frickin hairy deal - after rebate it’s not much...

rumatt · 03-05-2019, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBB

I’m not sure what the fuss is about...

If you hadn't ordered EAP you would be able to now add AP and FSD to your car for $5k total.

People who purchased EAP have to pay $3k extra to get FSD (some are saying Elon tweeted it's going to change to $2k)

*clyde* · 03-05-2019, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt

I posted this here mostly for you.

equ · 03-05-2019, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick M3

Kickstarter rationale applies here: Don’t buy a product that doesn’t exist. Even if you pay more at the end, it’s not worth it when you account for how long you waited.

Anybody that paid up for "Full Self Driving" deserves to lose that money.

JST · 03-05-2019, 10:30 PM

Look, Tesla fucks with prices all the time. Sometimes they go up. Sometimes they go down. I have zero sympathy for people complaining about price hikes or drops. You bought a car that was worth what you paid when you bought it. Enjoy.

rumatt · 03-05-2019, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by equ

Anybody that paid up for "Full Self Driving" deserves to lose that money.

Can't really argue with that.

ZBB · 03-06-2019, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rumatt

If you hadn't ordered EAP you would be able to now add AP and FSD to your car for $5k total.

People who purchased EAP have to pay $3k extra to get FSD (some are saying Elon tweeted it's going to change to $2k)

Looks like the FSD upgrade changed to $2k overnight...

I’ll consider paying for it, but only after the additional features are released... and maybe only after getting a trial (which Tesla has offered on upgrades in the past)...

rumatt · 03-06-2019, 09:04 AM

"New research by Quality Control Systems Corporation (QCSC) has found that Tesla’s Autosteer may have made accidents more common instead of reducing crashes."

https://customgloves.us/autopilot-2/...b39U6NkMA7dLAI

03-05-2019, 06:15 PM	#53
ZBB Relic Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: A very fast golf cart Location: The Valley of the Sun Posts: 12,821	I’m not sure what the fuss is about... Matt and I purchased “Enhanced Auto Pilot”, which was $5k at order or $6k to add later. Full Self Driving was another $3k, and we didn’t purchase it due to phantom ware (and it could be enabled later for $5k). With EAP, we get traffic aware cruise control, autosteer, and “navigate on autopilot” on highways. FSD was never fully defined, but total cost was $8k at order, or $10-$11k if activated after delivery. Now they have flipped the pricing, and dropped the word “enhanced”. Autopilot includes just TACC and Autosteer for $3k at order/$4k later. FSD is now $5k at order /$7k later and includes Navigate on Autopilot now (highway version now/city streets version later), with stop light/sign recognition coming. Total cost is still $8k at order or $10-11k later. And Tesla has thrown us current owners a bone... we can now add FSD for only $3k, not $5k. And they have defined that it will include Nav on Autopilot for city streets and the stop light/sign recognition. Still phantomware for now, but no more price penalty (for now at least...) Tesla has dropped prices. Big frickin hairy deal - after rebate it’s not much... __________________ ZBB

03-05-2019, 10:30 PM	#57
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,611	Look, Tesla fucks with prices all the time. Sometimes they go up. Sometimes they go down. I have zero sympathy for people complaining about price hikes or drops. You bought a car that was worth what you paid when you bought it. Enjoy.

03-06-2019, 09:04 AM	#60
rumatt Mugwump Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: E46 330i, Chevy Colorado, Tesla Model 3 Location: NY Posts: 17,475	"New research by Quality Control Systems Corporation (QCSC) has found that Tesla’s Autosteer may have made accidents more common instead of reducing crashes." https://customgloves.us/autopilot-2/...b39U6NkMA7dLAI