09-04-2019, 02:51 PM | #11 |
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Why are you comparing it to a Model 3? It's a Model S competitor. You might as well ask why the Model S is so much heavier than the Model 3 while you're at it.
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09-04-2019, 03:30 PM | #12 |
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I think it’s bigger on the outside than the Model 3, and it has a 93 kWh pack.
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09-04-2019, 03:31 PM | #13 |
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It’s smaller than a model S.
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09-04-2019, 04:11 PM | #14 |
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09-04-2019, 04:23 PM | #15 |
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So this is happening next weekend and beyond. Apparently Atlanta has a big showing:
National Drive Electric Week 2019 https://driveelectricweek.org/events.php |
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Net-net, it’s really expensive and it doesn’t have autopilot, but it looks a million times better and I’d expect it to handle better, be WAY better finished (every Tesla interior that I’ve been in felt low rent), and all that work that Porsche/VW have done making electric steering feel good will presumably also apply. I guess we’ll find out what it’s like. We don’t know much yet.
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If anything, they know there is demand for having THE performance EV (even if it isn’t true) and people will pay it. |
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09-04-2019, 05:11 PM | #18 |
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Here's the first of Motoman's videos on the Taycan. He has another being posted on Sunday (I think that's what he told me)...
As for price, $151k base puts this way out of reach... I was expecting under $100k starting price...
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It looks like a nice performance EV. Its specs, however, are disappointing. Assuming we're not going to see a range figure that really blows everything else out of the water, it's a smallish, 4 seat EV that used 93 kwh to travel less far than the (barely slower, smaller-but-with-more-usable space) Model 3 can go on 70ish kwh.
That doesn't mean it's a bad car, or even a bad EV. Performance cars aren't necessarily as efficient as non-performance cars. But it does suggest that the Porsche doesn't have any particular secret sauce compared to the rest of the VAG empire, and (perhaps most importantly) that Tesla still has a pretty significant lead in battery/driveline tech, fancy two-speed gearbox and 800V architecture notwithstanding. Does it look worlds better than the Tesla? Certainly better than the Model 3, yes. Better than the Model S? I mean, that car is 7 years old now, so it suffers from being overly familiar. But I think the Model S is better looking. The dropping tear ducts on this car skeeve me out, and the ones with the smaller wheels look a little low rent. EDIT: And, yeah, the price is stupid. Porsche has never been a value play, but their cars are actually pretty well priced against competitive offerings. This...isn't. |
09-04-2019, 06:40 PM | #20 |
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Interesting. Looks like they've gone the Tesla route w/ the air vents (can only be controlled via touch screen). Second screen for passenger will become more common but this is the first i've seen. Makes sense that it's the same size and UX, but it's odd to see when they're side by side displaying the same thing.
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