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Old 08-06-2019, 11:08 AM   #11
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The steering issue that bugged me on F30s was a sense of looseness or vagueness on-center when travelling straight at highway speeds. Last f30 I drove as a 2017 330 wagon a few years ago though. My RWD F10 had this characteristic as well.

Guess I'm in the minority with my negative reaction to the styling. In darker colors, its tolerable.

Speaking of manual 340s, there was a letter in the latest Roundel from a guy who wrote in to say that he bought 2 of the last manual 340s from his dealer (one for him and one for his wife) cause he liked it so much!
I had kind of the opposite reaction. It was too quick on center, which made the car wander.

But as a general matter, I think modern steering racks are way too quick period.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:15 PM   #12
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I had kind of the opposite reaction. It was too quick on center, which made the car wander.

But as a general matter, I think modern steering racks are way too quick period.
That was my experience with recent BMW racks. Their combination of very light and very quick off center made them hard to keep on line and easy to over correct.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:15 PM   #13
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That was my experience with recent BMW racks. Their combination of very light and very quick off center made them hard to keep on line and easy to over correct.
It’s a very Toyota experience.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:50 PM   #14
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I had kind of the opposite reaction. It was too quick on center, which made the car wander.

But as a general matter, I think modern steering racks are way too quick period.
Maybe that's what it is then. But what made it worse was the feeling of noticeably less resistance for the first few degrees off-center. The G20 and (previous hydraulic steering BMWs i've drive) have a more consistent, tighter feeling off center. My X3 also shares that trait which is strange considering it's an eps system from the same era as the f30.
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Old 08-30-2019, 03:20 PM   #15
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Just had the new 330ix as a loaner and walked away really impressed. The new digital dashboard is beautiful, the engine is really quick and it felt very sporty. Also surprising when in sport mode the fake engine sound is actually pretty cool.

They also gave the car features that were never available on a 3er, you can now get the brake hold feature and finally they offer sync for the hvac system.

Also agree on the steering, it is much improved though the on center feel is heavy, there is no doubt you are in dead center it kinda just sits there.

Overall they took this car up a level or two though with that said it was nice to get into my comfy 540 with the Napa leather and Multi contour massage seats

I can live with the 3er for sure but I still prefer the 5.
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Old 08-31-2019, 07:51 AM   #16
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Just had the new 330ix as a loaner and walked away really impressed. The new digital dashboard is beautiful, the engine is really quick and it felt very sporty. Also surprising when in sport mode the fake engine sound is actually pretty cool.

They also gave the car features that were never available on a 3er, you can now get the brake hold feature and finally they offer sync for the hvac system.

Also agree on the steering, it is much improved though the on center feel is heavy, there is no doubt you are in dead center it kinda just sits there.

Overall they took this car up a level or two though with that said it was nice to get into my comfy 540 with the Napa leather and Multi contour massage seats

I can live with the 3er for sure but I still prefer the 5.
Good to know. Thanks, AF.
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Oh Iíd wondered if there was a setting somewhere on the F80 that did sync. Good to know Iím not crazy for not being able to find it!
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Good point about the sync and auto hold features. Itís good to see that bmw seemed to really consider all the details (big and small) with this redesign.


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Good point about the sync and auto hold features. Itís good to see that bmw seemed to really consider all the details (big and small) with this redesign.


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Can't even get HUD on the 2s...
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Can't even get HUD on the 2s...
I didn’t get this on my 5er because I didn’t really think it is that great of a feature but after I ordered the car I didn’t realize the regular digital dash(not the optional one) has no digital read out for the speed and I thought I made a mistake noting getting it.

Luckily when I got the car I found when you put the car into sport mode the dash changed and gives you a digital readout so I have the individual setting with a mix of comfort and sport settings for when I want the digital readout.

Bmw really has done a great job with there cars lately.
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