03-05-2019, 06:49 PM | #1 |
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Rolling resistance stats for tires
Does anyone do measurements and reporting on tire rolling resistance?
I'm thinking of ditching the 20" wheels on the tesla but that leaves me needing to choose some replacement wheels and tires. I was really impressed with the Michelin 4S except for the range. And I've read that Tesla's version of the 4S has lower rolling resistance and from what you can buy elsewhere. So if I order 18" wheels with 4S off TireRack, my range will only get worse. People with the Michelin Primacy MXM4 get significantly improved range. But the tire is shit. People seem to love the Conti DWS 06 all-seasons, but I've seen some folks say the range isn't great on them either, but it's all anecdotal comments. Thoughts on how I can search for a decent-ish tire that is slightly better efficiency wise? I'd prefer either a really high performing all-season or a decent summer tire that has better rolling resistance. (Oh and I want them quiet and comfortable as well ) |
03-05-2019, 10:15 PM | #2 |
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Tirerack compares rolling resistance as MPG when they do comparisons. Low rolling resistance and good performance aren’t easily compatible.
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03-05-2019, 10:21 PM | #3 |
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How close are you to using the edge of your range? It sounded like you enjoy driving the car, get some enjoyable tires. I haven't owned the primacy but test drove it, maybe 11 years ago, on an e39 530i... Meh for that car, so go from there. I did drive the dws (owned its predecessor as well as dw) those are better but they are not going to be fun/grippy/smooth as the michelin. Maybe the dw gets closer but not the a/s one.
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03-05-2019, 10:39 PM | #4 |
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03-05-2019, 11:13 PM | #5 | ||
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03-05-2019, 11:15 PM | #6 |
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In the winter, too close. But once it warms up and the heater is off maybe I'll forget all about my range complaints.
The 4S are pretty great. It'll be hard not to get them again unless it got me significant range savings. |
03-06-2019, 07:53 AM | #7 |
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Talk to me in 12 months. My problem with the high end Michelin’s is that they age out FAST. The Contis don’t seem to suffer from significant (for their use case) age related degradation.
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03-06-2019, 08:24 AM | #8 |
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Why are you so focused on range? Do you regularly find yourself just a few miles away from empty between charges?
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03-06-2019, 09:19 AM | #9 | |
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One cause is that I don't have a charger in my NYC parking space. I'll plan a weekend where I go to the city, then want to make a short trip somewhere, and think "crap, if I do that I'll need to charge on the way home tomorrow." But extending the range can help even for medium distance round trips. The 4S cause 20% or more range reduction over the Primacy MXM4, which is what the 310 mile claimed range is based on. I also try to keep the battery between 80 and 20% charge. Put them together and I get about 150 miles per charge. So I can visit someone who lives 75 miles away without charging, as long as they don't ask to test drive my car while I'm there. And it's warm outside. Once it gets warm out maybe it won't be an issue. What I'll probably do is get the 4S and start using the E46 again for longer trips. Last edited by rumatt; 03-06-2019 at 09:43 AM. |
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03-06-2019, 09:22 AM | #10 |
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