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Old 12-11-2018, 08:56 AM   #11
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It kind of sounds like you've given up caring about driving.
I've given up on cars priced beyond median US household income with performance envelopes too great to be enjoyed on the street.

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Tesla!


Kinda disappointed to hear Volt production will cease.
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:06 AM   #12
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Kinda disappointed to hear Volt production will cease.
Unfortunately, you can still get a Bolt.
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:38 AM   #13
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I've given up on cars priced beyond median US household income with performance envelopes too great to be enjoyed on the street.
THIS!
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:57 AM   #14
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I kind of want a Bolt, and yet don't want a Model 3 at all. But I'm weird.

(I am not going to buy a Bolt. They're far too stupid looking. But I kind of want one)
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:05 AM   #15
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I've given up on cars priced beyond median US household income with performance envelopes too great to be enjoyed on the street.
Ergo, the Miata is the answer. If my boxster went poof, an ND would be the first thing I'd test drive. 2019+ got increased hp.
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Old 12-11-2018, 11:03 AM   #16
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Tesla!
Menlo Park Camry.
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Old 12-11-2018, 11:31 AM   #17
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Menlo Park Camry.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:22 PM   #18
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Ergo, the Miata is the answer. If my boxster went poof, an ND would be the first thing I'd test drive. 2019+ got increased hp.
Yes. It makes a very compelling case for itself and I do want one, but an ND2/tubomaro combo doesn't make nearly as much sense as a towing-capable-truck-or-suv/turbomaro combo does



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Menlo Park Camry.
I do want to drive a new Camry and see if they've gotten any better. I'm open to Toyota changing direction. Skeptical, but open.
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I've given up on cars priced beyond median US household income with performance envelopes too great to be enjoyed on the street.















Kinda disappointed to hear Volt production will cease.


Honest. Not defeatist or apathetic.

(Electric cars suck in 20F weather by the way)
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