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[SCA]

Originally Posted by lemming

Looks like a really nice car. PPF from the a very highly skilled shop.

Miles look good which means it’s a driver. And CPO still.

My 0.02, it is best to always buy a “driver” if you intend to actually drive it, otherwise a garage queen tends to continue being exactly that. Per my own experience, a creampuff, super low mileage car ends up staying that way and mainly because every time you add additional miles you tend to feel guilty for doing so. You also seem to live in constant fear of someone royally screwing it up for you.

Edit: A very recent example of someone royally screwing it up for you… https://youtu.be/c6jomRCiNP0

Originally Posted by dan

Bit of an issue with this statement, considering what happened in Texas in Feb of 2021.

Truth… I wonder where my car was during that mess? Of course as much as Houston floods I think that was more of a concern during the PPI.

[dan]

Most likely these cars were not driven during the storm, as big cities pretty much shut down. But saying that Texas doesn't have harsh winter (weeks/days, at least) is a big stretch. It's certainly no south florida/ southern california mild

[SCA]

Originally Posted by dan

Most likely these cars were not driven during the storm, as big cities pretty much shut down. But saying that Texas doesn't have harsh winter (weeks/days, at least) is a big stretch. It's certainly no south florida/ southern california mild

Where the owner of my 997.2 resided would typically flood and a owner of a Houston Porsche Indy had a large warehouse out of the flood zones that he would allow PCA members to store their cars there during major storms. A nice gesture that has also benefited his business.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by dan

Most likely these cars were not driven during the storm, as big cities pretty much shut down. But saying that Texas doesn't have harsh winter (weeks/days, at least) is a big stretch. It's certainly no south florida/ southern california mild

South Florida might beg to differ over the next few days. Frankly, no place seems entirely safe from extreme weather now.

[lemming]

Originally Posted by SCA

My 0.02, it is best to always buy a “driver” if you intend to actually drive it, otherwise a garage queen tends to continue being exactly that. Per my own experience, a creampuff, super low mileage car ends up staying that way and mainly because every time you add additional miles you tend to feel guilty for doing so. You also seem to live in constant fear of someone royally screwing it up for you.

Edit: A very recent example of someone royally screwing it up for you… https://youtu.be/c6jomRCiNP0


Truth… I wonder where my car was during that mess? Of course as much as Houston floods I think that was more of a concern during the PPI.

I’ve had terrible experiences with low mileage cars.

[Jeff_DML]

Originally Posted by wdc330i

South Florida might beg to differ over the next few days. Frankly, no place seems entirely safe from extreme weather now.

yeah exactly

[lemming]

Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

yeah exactly

The undercarriage of SoCal cars always amazes me.

Sure, there’s oxidation and stuff. But it’s not the rusty bloodbath that the undercarriages of my cars looked like back East. Maybe I shouldn’t have driven my cars in the winter, but I’m just not that person.

Anyway, there’s a high price to pay for that.

On the 9A2 powered cars, the turbos are set so low in the engine that the road salt and debris just f*ck them up prematurely.

I guess my point is, I’d not buy a higher end car from the East Coast ever again if I can avoid it.

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by lemming

The undercarriage of SoCal cars always amazes me.

Sure, there’s oxidation and stuff. But it’s not the rusty bloodbath that the undercarriages of my cars looked like back East. Maybe I shouldn’t have driven my cars in the winter, but I’m just not that person.

Anyway, there’s a high price to pay for that.

On the 9A2 powered cars, the turbos are set so low in the engine that the road salt and debris just f*ck them up prematurely.

I guess my point is, I’d not buy a higher end car from the East Coast ever again if I can avoid it.

New Jersey / PA and up are my line of demarcation. But I'd prefer further south. My E53's Carolina undercarriage is an absolute thing of beauty. It literally never saw salt before I owned it.

California cars are a bit of a mixed bag, IMO. The undercarriages look great, but no one can afford garages, so low-mid tier cars get trashed up top.

[lemming]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

New Jersey / PA and up are my line of demarcation. But I'd prefer further south. My E53's Carolina undercarriage is an absolute thing of beauty. It literally never saw salt before I owned it.

California cars are a bit of a mixed bag, IMO. The undercarriages look great, but no one can afford garages, so low-mid tier cars get trashed up top.

That’s a good set of addendums for common sense rules for buying cars. Thanks, Nick.

The sun is brutal is just destroys paint and plastics.

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by lemming

That’s a good set of addendums for common sense rules for buying cars. Thanks, Nick.

The sun is brutal is just destroys paint and plastics.

Yeah. It's especially challenging for cars that are *currently* in real demand, but were once ignored. Like, say, E30 M3s. The $15k rule that was probably sound for 1995-2005.