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Old 11-16-2022, 10:53 AM   #331
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Seriously, how can anyone want to own one of these

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Old 11-16-2022, 12:34 PM   #332
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Old 12-14-2022, 10:28 AM   #333
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“If you’re driving a Tesla, some people have said it’s like wearing a MAGA hat”
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Old 12-14-2022, 02:21 PM   #334
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I know the litigation against Elon’s comp package is calling into question the true independence of the TSLA board of directors, but how long can board allow this much value destruction without taking action? Trend over past 3 months is brutal. Elon is free to say what he wants on Twitter since he owns it, but he shouldn’t be able to sink Tesla unchecked.

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Old 12-14-2022, 04:03 PM   #335
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I know the litigation against Elon’s comp package is calling into question the true independence of the TSLA board of directors
I think you nailed it right there; the board is stacked in his favor.
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Old 12-14-2022, 08:56 PM   #336
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“If you’re driving a Tesla, some people have said it’s like wearing a MAGA hat”
I think most of us are able to separate the company, and the buyers, from the man. I'm sure as shit not buying one, though.

This was a good read, though.

https://www.stonekettle.com/2022/12/...titan.html?m=1
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Old 12-15-2022, 07:11 AM   #337
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I'm not planning on selling my Tesla because of Musk.

But I will be considering other EVs when its time to replace our cars. My Model 3 is over 4 years old, but only has 25k miles (combination of 5 months in the body shop in '18-'19 and the shift to working from home (planned before COVID, but accelerated by a few months...).

My wife's Model Y is 2.5 years old and now has ~32k miles. Its become our road trip car.

I could easily see us keeping the 3 for another ~3 years and the Y for another 5-6... Plenty of time for lots of competition to be avail. And for charging networks to catch up (or Tesla to roll out adapter use).
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Old 12-15-2022, 08:20 AM   #338
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Mine is 4 years old and has 45k ish miles on it. No real plans to sell but absolutely will not buy another; a combo of the Musk BS and the fact that it drives my wife crazy because it frequently decides to stop letting her in with her Bluetooth phone.

That’s especially true if, as rumored, there’s an interior redo next year that brings the yoke.

I like driving an EV, I really do, but unless there’s a dramatic improvement in SAE fast charging networks in the next few years it would be awful hard to go from the current Tesla network to something else.
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Old 12-15-2022, 11:28 AM   #339
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Feedback from ZBB and JST is good here. Pretty fair and balanced for the early adopters.

I’m still waiting it out to see the same. Just a more accessible charging network.
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Old 12-15-2022, 04:03 PM   #340
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I could easily see us keeping the 3 for another ~3 years and the Y for another 5-6... Plenty of time for lots of competition to be avail. And for charging networks to catch up (or Tesla to roll out adapter use).
Although having an adapter that would allow CCS cars to use Tesla superchargers in the US would help in terms of charger availability, I suspect we'd see many of the same issues that plague other public charging networks.One of the factors that makes Teslas network so easy and reliable is that they make both the car and the chargers. Once you try to integrate other vehicles, there will be similar issues involving communication between car and charger and, of course various hassles involving apps and payment.
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