Dial 911

[SCA]

Originally Posted by lemming

Sold for kind of big money.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4s-4/

That is the new norm for any 997.2. Porsche dealers that end up with one in their inventory are reaping the same rewards.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2010-porsche-911-20/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-s-42/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-20/

[lemming]

Originally Posted by SCA

That is the new norm for any 997.2. Porsche dealers that end up with one in their inventory are reaping the same rewards.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2010-porsche-911-20/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-s-42/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-20/

Okay. I had no idea.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by lemming

Okay. I had no idea.

Yeah, it is crazy… but I suppose it is expected in today’s used car market?

Edit: The one that I am currently considering, waiting for PPI to be performed, is well above book value.

[JST]

Even the 997.1s are climbing; not quite that fast but they’re definitely well above where they were a few years ago.

996s seem to be, as well.

There’s really no such thing as a bargain 911 at this point.

[robg]

Originally Posted by lemming

To be honest 90% of the TTS appeal is the speed that is not legal. In normal driving it’s kind of a pig. And feels ordinary and quiet. But I spend so much time on the highway that overtaking speed is my #1 ask.

In 90% of driving a manual 987 is dynamically superior and it’s really just a more engaging car.

For that use case, wouldn't a Panamera TTS or Taycan TTS be even better?

[lemming]

Originally Posted by robg

For that use case, wouldn't a Panamera TTS or Taycan TTS be even better?

Much much heavier cars though.

The Taycan is 5500 pounds. And the Panamera is well north of 4000lbs (~4300lbs).

When you’re at 80mph+ and constantly crash braking (which defines SoCal), that extra weight is not appreciated.

[robg]

Originally Posted by lemming

Much much heavier cars though.

The Taycan is 5500 pounds. And the Panamera is well north of 4000lbs (~4300lbs).

When you’re at 80mph+ and constantly crash braking (which defines SoCal), that extra weight is not appreciated.

Gotcha. I was curious so I looked up C&D's tests for the 911 turbo and the Panamera TS. Looks like their 100-0 distances aren't far off surprisingly (283 vs 291)

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...turbo-s-drive/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

[lemming]

Originally Posted by robg

Gotcha. I was curious so I looked up C&D's tests for the 911 turbo and the Panamera TS. Looks like their 100-0 distances aren't far off surprisingly (283 vs 291)

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...turbo-s-drive/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

I think you just can never get around the fact that a Taycan weighs more than 5000 pounds. Dynamically Porsche did everything possible to make it feel lighter. But i wonder how often the brakes need to be replaced.

[SCA]

‘09 C2S manual, 42k miles with six owners. Brought $70.5k plus 5% BaT fee. Not perfect so maybe that is what hindered it from doing any better?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-s-41/

[robg]

Originally Posted by lemming

I think you just can never get around the fact that a Taycan weighs more than 5000 pounds. Dynamically Porsche did everything possible to make it feel lighter. But i wonder how often the brakes need to be replaced.

I guess if you regularly really slam on the brakes you'll burn through them. But like most EVs, most of your day to day braking needs are handled entirely by regen. In the Taycan's case, the first .4g of braking is handled entirely by regen according to this article:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...tput-charging/

The Tesla Model S is similarly heavy and it's pretty common to hear reports of people going years without needing to replace brakes.