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[Jeff_DML]

Originally Posted by SARAFIL

..- basically the Tesla approach of include the hardware but charge you to activate and use it. ,,,.

I like that so I can be cheap on options but change my mind later

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Also I am not saying other companies tech will necessarily be better but the whole industry will improve more rapidly because of competition. Good thing in the long run.

[JST]

Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

I like that so I can be cheap on options but change my mind later

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Also I am not saying other companies tech will necessarily be better but the whole industry will improve more rapidly because of competition. Good thing in the long run.

True, but I thought Dan Neil's piece on the iPace in the WSJ made an interesting point: The new Jaguar electric SUV has good stats, but it has to use a 90 kwh battery to do what the Model X can do with a 75 kwh battery. And the Model X is still (basically) second gen Tesla tech. It doesn't use the new stuff in the Model 3.

Neil's point was that we've long assumed that as soon as the big carmakers jump in the game, they'd be able to catch up to Tesla pretty quickly. That's probably not true, it turns out.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/2019-ja...els-1537538128

[clyde]

Originally Posted by JST

True, but I thought Dan Neil's piece on the iPace in the WSJ made an interesting point: The new Jaguar electric SUV has good stats, but it has to use a 90 kwh battery to do what the Model X can do with a 75 kwh battery. And the Model X is still (basically) second gen Tesla tech. It doesn't use the new stuff in the Model 3.

Neil's point was that we've long assumed that as soon as the big carmakers jump in the game, they'd be able to catch up to Tesla pretty quickly. That's probably not true, it turns out.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/2019-ja...els-1537538128

Perhaps the headline should have been "British Car Manufacturer Doesn't Get Electrics Quite Right"

The world would have been shocked.

[John V]

Originally Posted by JST

True, but I thought Dan Neil's piece on the iPace in the WSJ made an interesting point: The new Jaguar electric SUV has good stats, but it has to use a 90 kwh battery to do what the Model X can do with a 75 kwh battery. And the Model X is still (basically) second gen Tesla tech. It doesn't use the new stuff in the Model 3.

Neil's point was that we've long assumed that as soon as the big carmakers jump in the game, they'd be able to catch up to Tesla pretty quickly. That's probably not true, it turns out.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/2019-ja...els-1537538128

We buy cars based on more than just the tech. There is a lot about Tesla that is, when compared to order automakers, pretty half-baked.

[ZBB]

Originally Posted by rumatt

Regarding the Tesla cost to own... The gas savings will help a little but... Although I'm convinced the increased tire cost (heavy car with tons of torque) will eat that up, and more.

On the S, I got roughly 35k miles on each set of tires. I had the 19” OEM Goodyear all seasons, which cost ~$850 to replace (mounted). The 21” apparently were lucky to last 15k - and much more expensive.

As for Chill Mode, my S60 didn’t have it, and I haven’t tried it in the 3 yet.

[rumatt]

There's also the aspect that if I love the car the way it is, then I don't really care where the market goes. During the 15 year's I've owned my E46, the automotive industry did not innovate anything that was of interest to me. I could easily see the same happening with electric vehicles. They'll just get more catered to the masses, not better in any way I care about.

I think the biggest question, and financial risk for me, is whether I love the car after driving it for a while. If it goes the way of the E46 and I drive the wheels off it, it'll have been money well spent (albeit a lot of money). If it goes the path of the Cayman, I'll end up losing what.. $20-25k on my gamble?

I hope I like it.

[rumatt]

A coworker got a model-3 (non performance) and wrote this as part of his review on an internal forum.

I didn't know driving them through walls was a problem.

The car really is many different cars. I can change it so that it goes into "chill" mode. I recommend someone when they first starts driving use that. It kills the instant acceleration that I mentioned is so exciting. But every time I get in and out of a parking space, I'm afraid I'm going to press the pedal just a bit too hard and suddenly ram into something. I haven't yet. Maybe sometime I'll get more confident that I won't slip up. But there are stories of people hitting their garage etc. and blaming the auto-pilot when they were to blame. Blaming the auto-pilot is wrong, but I can understand why with this car people might hit buildings more so than others. "Chill" mode makes sense. But I suspect getting used to chill and not-chill mode is hard.

[Jeff_DML]

I thought the acceleration was very easy to modulate, some gas engines have worse tip in(right word?). Regen was a bit tricky to do smoothly but got it within 5 minutes.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by rumatt

A coworker got a model-3 (non performance) and wrote this as part of his review on an internal forum.

I didn't know driving them through walls was a problem.

I'd ask you what it's like to work with total fucking idiots, but I already know.

[rumatt]

Originally Posted by clyde

I'd ask you what it's like to work with total fucking idiots, but I already know.

Different guy from the first story. Both extremely high ranking people at my company.

I went to the car wash this weekend.. and got stuck in tracks… could not figure out how to put car in N (you have to hold stick in between R and D for more than a sec). The car wash guys claim to do a lot of Teslas but they could not figure it out either. Finally, we decide to drive through car wash at a slow speed…. bloody wipers start going. There is no OFF button… some scrambled hitting button on GUI worked…. and got out of the car wash only to realize that I never folded my mirrors.

I Wrote a letter to Tesla asking for a Car Wash Mode…