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Old 01-25-2021, 09:13 PM   #21
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The Taycan looks like a really cool car but I donít think I would want to have a sedan with rear wheel drive especially after driving an Electric car and seeing how they have instant power I would think AWD is important.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:27 PM   #22
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RWD electric cars are fun, same as RWD ice cars. I bought a P85+ Intentionally because it was one of the last hi po RWD Teslas.

You can do a lot more with AWD obviously but given that itís a 20k+ up charge on the Taycan (and you can get the bigger battery on the RWD) itís not a no-brainer to me.
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:01 PM   #23
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I dunno. I can see an argument for the fact that EV has so much torque that you might as well go for the cartoonish-levels-of-acceleration fun angle with AWD, whereas a RWD ICE give you more purist/Neanderthal-type fun.
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:21 PM   #24
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I hadn't really paid much attention to this car given the nosebleed prices of the versions that are out currently. 80k is still a ton of money, but it atleast caused me to go down the rabbit hole of configurators and research.
What are your driving use cases? Did you (pre-covid) you commute to work with a car? How many trips per year? Where and for how many days?

I never used to ask myself these questions for years beyond 1. is it fun to drive 2. how is it for a summer trip? a ski trip? 3. need decent looks, depreciation & reliability.

For an EV, I think I'd need to think a little harder. How long are the trips? How many days stay? Do I go somewhere remote/off the beaten path, or stick to main/busy corridors and stay in modern hotels? I agree that many people overweight their rare trips that they could handle with rentals.

My trips are few as well but my commute is non-existent. If I were perfectly rational, I would not only sell my cars to get an EV, I'd sell the EV, not have a car and only rent / turo / silvercar as needed.
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:19 PM   #25
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Base Taycan announced (RWD/80k). Anyone intrigued?

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The Taycan looks like a really cool car but I donít think I would want to have a sedan with rear wheel drive especially after driving an Electric car and seeing how they have instant power I would think AWD is important.


Yeah will be interesting to see how much the regular ď4Ē version costs (I assume theyíll eventually introduce it in keeping their other model lines.) That being said, itís not like the base taycan has an overwhelming amount of power so the difference in its ability to put down power might not be that different. Also with electric motors, traction control can be more fine grained and precise as well.


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Old 01-26-2021, 11:13 AM   #26
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RWD makes it more appealing to me than AWD certainly, but at $80k I'm not the target market.

From people I trust who have driven both, the RWD Tesla Model 3 is a lot more fun on the street than the AWD version. They report better steering feel and that the car feels more nimble and tossable. Acceleration in the real world is still better than 99% of vehicles on the road, so what you give up to the AWD version is a don't-care IMO.
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:33 PM   #27
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RWD makes it more appealing to me than AWD certainly, but at $80k I'm not the target market.

From people I trust who have driven both, the RWD Tesla Model 3 is a lot more fun on the street than the AWD version. They report better steering feel and that the car feels more nimble and tossable. Acceleration in the real world is still better than 99% of vehicles on the road, so what you give up to the AWD version is a don't-care IMO.
Makes sense...similar to the effect AWD has on ICE cars as well. It's funny- back when I had my e46 I used to be a diehard "RWD + snow tires is all you need". I suspect that a RWD EV is also able to approximate (actually do better than), what a limited slip diff can do in terms of sending the right amount of power to each rear wheel. Could be wrong about that though.
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So long as it's a single power source (as opposed to individual motors for each wheel) the same problem exists as with a gas engine. I'd fully expect that the Taycan has a limited slip rear diff, but haven't done any research to support that expectation.

Sending power to the front wheels pollutes the steering feel regardless of whether the power source is an ICE or an electric motor, and the extra weight doesn't do it any favors either.
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So long as it's a single power source (as opposed to individual motors for each wheel) the same problem exists as with a gas engine. I'd fully expect that the Taycan has a limited slip rear diff, but haven't done any research to support that expectation.

Sending power to the front wheels pollutes the steering feel regardless of whether the power source is an ICE or an electric motor, and the extra weight doesn't do it any favors either.
torque vectoring electrically controlled diff per the literature. so, yes, limited slip. curious what the durability of that thing is?
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With the exception of the early plebian-model water-cooled engines, Porsche reliability seems to be pretty good, so..
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