M3/M4 leaked a day prior to official unveiling. - Page 3

FC · 09-23-2020, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

I said almost but it is something 3800-ish for 6MT base rwd

I just saw the specs.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1759748

That's actually worse. They added 200lbs with no AWD? Yikes. Also, non-ZCP is not all that much better than the F80 ZCP.

Same torque, only 30hp more but with an extra 200lbs to haul around - and ugly.

Jeff_DML · 09-23-2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FC

I just saw the specs.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1759748

That's actually worse. They added 200lbs with no AWD? Yikes. Also, non-ZCP is not all that much better than the F80 ZCP.

Same torque, only 30hp more but with an extra 200lbs to haul around - and ugly.

Is that huge ugly grill heavy?

diverging from their 50/50 weight balance

Jeff_DML · 09-23-2020, 12:00 PM

JST · 09-23-2020, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC

I just saw the specs.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1759748

That's actually worse. They added 200lbs with no AWD? Yikes. Also, non-ZCP is not all that much better than the F80 ZCP.

Same torque, only 30hp more but with an extra 200lbs to haul around - and ugly.

Yeah the torque on the "core" model is the same as the non-competition F80. HP is up about 50 over the non-comp F80, and interestingly it hits lower in the rev range (6500 v. 7200). But I have never really thought "my car needs 50 more hp." I certainly have never thought "this car needs 200 lbs more."

In light of this I'm pretty happy with the F80, tbh.

FC · 09-23-2020, 12:11 PM

Wow, they went full-on rice for the add-ons.

JST · 09-23-2020, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FC

Wow, they went full-on rice for the add-ons.

Jesus you have to post a CW before you include a pic like that.

FC · 09-23-2020, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JST

Jesus you have to post a CW before you include a pic like that.

FC · 09-23-2020, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JST

I certainly have never thought "this car needs 200 lbs more."

In light of this I'm pretty happy with the F80, tbh.

Agreed. Also, the AWD would be nice in some respects, but not for what will amount to a ~500lb weight penalty over the F80!

Josh (PA) · 09-23-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FC

Wow, they went full-on rice for the add-ons.

Could you imagine that exterior and this interior:

Josh (PA) · 09-23-2020, 12:29 PM

Is this the exhaust on the competition version?

Edit: no, just m-performance muffler/parts

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