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Old 05-24-2018, 11:26 AM   #41
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Hatchback seems like it only sucks for a dog no? Or am I missing something?

When I had a wagon we rarely used the additional height provided by it. Seemed like hatchback would provide most of the utility I needed, aka loading a bike and long items.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:27 AM   #42
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It does nothing better than a wagon back end and gains very little over the sedan.
Really? Sedans made it difficult to load large item - like a big bicycle. And there are items that could fit once you got them in there, but you can't load them because of the trunk clearance angle. It seems the hatch would help all of these things, right?

It's definitely not a wagon replacement though, for sure.
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Old 05-24-2018, 01:06 PM   #43
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Hatchback seems like it only sucks for a dog no? Or am I missing something?

When I had a wagon we rarely used the additional height provided by it. Seemed like hatchback would provide most of the utility I needed, aka loading a bike and long items.
It is a personal use case topic I guess. We use the height space of the e46 wagon or X5 all the time for the dog (I don't like the dog free roaming in the car with the seats down or sitting in the back seat), for 2 to 3 hockey bags when we were taking our daughter and friends to ice hockey practice, for moving the kids back and forth to college, Taking bulky items to the lake, etc. A few of these things would work with the hatchback, but many wouldn't. I guess my take is what is the benefit of the hatch that the wagon doesn't do better.
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Old 05-24-2018, 02:56 PM   #44
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Nothing beats a wagon. I wish that BMW would put a proper engine in the 3. Now that it's practically 5-series sized, that's all it needs. Oh, and a manual transmission and RWD available for those who want them. (Okay, let's throw an LSD and proper sport suspension in there as well).
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:58 PM   #45
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For reference, Mabel in the x5
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:16 AM   #46
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:25 AM   #48
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we have the best dog car you can get and our spoiled dog will not stay back there
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:18 AM   #49
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Well, I turned in the GT yesterday. The lease inspection and turn in was very painless (shockingly painless) and consisted of the lease manager at Ottos BMW walking around the car (and not noticing the cheap touch up work I had done to a couple of scratches), checking the I-Drive vehicle check to ensure no issues and reading the odometer. No charges. Signed the docs, handed in the keys and walked away with only the $350 re-stocking fee out of pocket. I was very happy.

As for my thoughts on the car... As time went on I enjoyed it less and less. The engine was really the only redeeming quality and that developed a weird mis-fire that wouldn't throw any codes. If it was my car I would have had it addressed, but since it was going back to BMW anyway I just tried to ignore it. The steering was as awful as the car mags have made it out to be. WAAY too light, Waayy too numb, but still super quick, so slight movements of the -unweighted- wheel would cause the car to jerk. The ride was fine, but uninteresting. The back seat was a great size for 2 people, but tight in width for 3. The sloping hatch design provided no benefits over a standard trunk. I think I mentioned it elsewhere, but it made me appreciate the x5 much more than I did previously.

We did put 17,000 miles on it between the middle of May and end of January, and it cost us almost no money so it served my desired purpose perfectly. The only things I did to it during my ownership was 2 oil changes, put a 'used' set of run-flats w/ 11/32 of tread left on them for $250 on the front and $175 for touch up work.

The swap-a-lease type experience was great, I'd definitely consider doing it again.
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Nice! Are you getting anything to replace it?
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