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Old 03-15-2018, 03:08 PM   #61
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Ok, NOW I get you.

You're right, it's a different kind of fun. Since I live in a wide open desert, I do a bit of mild 'wheeling. I also love taking my truck out when there's at least a foot of snow. It just plows through it unlike my little car, which struggles at only 4 inches with due-to-be-replaced Yokohama all-season tires.

BTW, if you DO get a stock truck, do NOT go to a store or website like this.

You'd be like a kid in a candy store, LOL.
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A deer grill thingy might be a good idea, though.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:22 PM   #62
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For giggles, see if you can get a test drive in a Raptor. I know it doesn't tick any of the boxes you're looking to tick, but why not?
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:30 PM   #63
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I'll just leave this here http://www.businessinsider.com/toyot...es-2018-3?op=1

I didn't fit comfortably in the Canyon/Colorado, but I have more leg length than you to deal with.

I got my "nicely equipped" GMC 1500 for much less than a Colorado ZR2, but 4wd was not on my list of necessities.
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:49 PM   #64
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Lord.

A deer grill thingy might be a good idea, though.
Then add a lift kit, bigger/wider hybrid tires, aftermarket wheels, nerf bars, fender flares, brush guard, roll bars with a row of lights that can light up runway 28 at LaGuardia ....

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Old 03-27-2018, 06:51 PM   #65
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So, Matt, somehow, I'm not sure how, tapatalk is throwing your questions on Canyon/Colorada forums on my feed. Forums I've never been to. "It knows". I don't remember subscribing to you, but some connection must have happened.

My one comment (without reading through the lengthy awd, seat and suspension) comparisons would be to watch out for AWD (i.e. engaged transfer case) vs. On-demand-sorta-AWD (i.e. engages after detecting slip). Methinks you would not like the latter. I actually think it's a bigger deal than rear diff, e.g. I went through the Tacoma and 4-Runner configurations quite a bit. Based on what I read, I don't think 4wd + rear diff will be as good as awd + open diff on snowy roads at any kind of speed. And once that awd has a axle to axle locking option, the lower speed advantage is largely taken care of.
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Old 03-27-2018, 08:35 PM   #66
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So, Matt, somehow, I'm not sure how, tapatalk is throwing your questions on Canyon/Colorada forums on my feed. Forums I've never been to. "It knows". I don't remember subscribing to you, but some connection must have happened.
That's bizarre. Tapa-stalk?

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My one comment (without reading through the lengthy awd, seat and suspension) comparisons would be to watch out for AWD (i.e. engaged transfer case) vs. On-demand-sorta-AWD (i.e. engages after detecting slip). Methinks you would not like the latter. I actually think it's a bigger deal than rear diff, e.g. I went through the Tacoma and 4-Runner configurations quite a bit. Based on what I read, I don't think 4wd + rear diff will be as good as awd + open diff on snowy roads at any kind of speed. And once that awd has a axle to axle locking option, the lower speed advantage is largely taken care of.
Colorado/Canyon's have 4-High (Locked transfer case) and 4-Auto (AWD-ish thingy). My understanding of 4-Auto is that the transfer case locks the front and rear, but the front axles have some kind of clutch so only 5% of the torque is going to the front until the rears slip. I also read (but didn't verify) that it's the same transfer case that's in the Jeep Grand Cherokee.

But yeah, I'm not sure how well it will work in slick conditions. In my test drives accelerating on dirt, etc, it was pretty decent. I fully expect the truck to be sketchy in winter, particularly since I'd get an extended cab which has the least weight over the wheels. But I know I won't get stuck... and driving sideways is fun right?

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Seriously... 'marnold6'... I was about to ignore... Then I noticed the obsessive, nerdy nature of the questions.

I don't think the JGC case is like that, it is 48/52 front/rear IIRC by default, but can push forward and backward if need be (sort of subaru-like as it's clutched rather than audi gear driven).

Some JGC lower trims stay as such, other allow the locking feature.
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Oh yeah, I don't think the whole system is the same. Just that the transfer case itself (or maybe the metal case itself ) is shared, so Chevy folks like to brag about it.
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Also, continuing on the tapa-stalk theme, based on my JGC experience, I highly, highly recommend sticking to your guns and getting hwy & snow tires. My tire shop tried hard to convince me that Michelin LTX's are all that I needed, showed me their plow vehicle... Regardless, Blizzaks (DM V2 or some such model) are awesome. And after fourteen winters with snow tires, i learned something new. Keeping to stock widths rather than narrowing seems to help.

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Also, continuing on the tapa-stalk theme, based on my JGC experience, I highly, highly recommend sticking to your guns and getting hwy & snow tires.
Absolutely. No chance I'm not getting snows.

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Yes! This is my same conclusion after running 205's on the E91. Just not enough tire for the 99% of the time you're not driving in deep snow.
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