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Old 04-16-2024, 06:40 PM   #1
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2015 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N First drive

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Most ingeniously, Hyundai engineers weren’t content with a same-old, single-speed EV transmission experience. Their paddle-shifted “N e-Shift” simulates the feel and engine revs of an eight-speed, dual-clutch gearbox. There’s even a tachometer on the 12.3-inch driver’s cluster, whose needle quivers at “idle” and zips toward 8,000 rpm, synced to the torque curve of a four-cylinder engine. (Pay no mind to the electric Oz behind the curtain, with dual motors that actually spin to 21,000 rpm). Drivers will feel surprisingly natural torque interruption, re-engagement and rev-matched downshifts. Moves are almost spookily matched to rising-and-falling engine sound, including selectable pops and burbles during shifts. When I bumped into the “redline” in manual mode, I paid the old-school price, as the Hyundai banged against a simulated rev limiter. Select too high a gear, and the powertrain lugs. Expect other performance automakers to adopt some version of this system, quickly.
sounds kind of interesting in a video game way

https://www.autoblog.com/2024/04/16/...n-first-drive/
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Old 04-17-2024, 10:48 AM   #2
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Yeah- all the reviews i've read/watched so far have been very positive about it. Sounds like they did a good job of simulating gear shifts along with the engine sounds and g-forces associated with an ICE car. I'd definitely be interested in trying one out. Plus the Ioniq 5 in general is one of the best looking cars on the road IMO. Porsche better be planning something similar for their EV Boxster...

Jason Cammissa made some good points on a recent podcast about how this car kind of removes any reason to be buying an automatic performance car given (if you're not buying an EV, buy a manual sports car)
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Old 04-17-2024, 07:07 PM   #3
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Plus the Ioniq 5 in general is one of the best looking cars on the road IMO.)
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Old 04-17-2024, 07:14 PM   #4
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I like it too Reminds me a bit of a Lancia Delta Integrale
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Old 04-17-2024, 07:44 PM   #5
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I like it too Reminds me a bit of a Lancia Delta Integrale
I think it looks cool too I was just surprised Rob thinks it’s one of the best looking cars on the road
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Old 04-17-2024, 07:50 PM   #6
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I think it looks cool too I was just surprised Rob thinks it’s one of the best looking cars on the road


Meant to say one of the best new cars - but I don’t really like the looks of most new cars

And I love 70s/80s Guigiaro design


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Old 04-18-2024, 11:36 AM   #7
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Meant to say one of the best new cars - but I don’t really like the looks of most new cars

And I love 70s/80s Guigiaro design


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Old 04-18-2024, 11:40 AM   #8
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I do not understand the appeal of fake transmissions at all.
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Old 04-18-2024, 12:29 PM   #9
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I do not understand the appeal of fake transmissions at all.
Based on the reviews (from journalists whose opinions I respect such as Jason Cammissa), it makes it more engaging and also more intuitive to drive (atleast on a track). Seems like the best of both worlds to me-- if you dont like it you can switch to normal EV mode.
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Based on the reviews (from journalists whose opinions I respect such as Jason Cammissa), it makes it more engaging and also more intuitive to drive (atleast on a track). Seems like the best of both worlds to me-- if you dont like it you can switch to normal EV mode.
To be honest, I don't even enjoy shifting DCT transmissions manually. Auto is auto.

I also really don't see how it's more intuitive to drive on track than "the power is always available when you put your foot down?"

I guess I'm glad someone is enjoying it, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
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