08-20-2017, 03:59 PM | #1 |
Western Anomaly
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Revisited the 996 Turbo
Drove one today. Black/black. <30,000 miles.
Pretty amazing shape for a 15 year old car --the exterior had minor kinds of scratches (from keys perhaps or whatever). Interior looked like it was just out of the showroom. Any modifications? Just a short shifter. The car is amazing. It's so fast. And fluid. There is maybe some lag? Not super noticeable. And then the boost piles on quickly past 3500rpms. Like the Hand of God and stuff goes flying in the car and you can stay pinned in your seat until the next shift --that kind of fast. Got some country road driving in. And some nice highway driving. The brake pedal feel is super solid and firm. The clutch has a high effort pedal, but easy engagement point. No flywheel chatter. The steering is laudable. Direct and connected with the chassis. Holy Cow. I got back into the M3 and that engine is still world class. It's just that the rest of the car feels high-waisted. Like the car's center of gravity is about 2 feet higher. Not as cohesive. The S65 sounds nastier, of course. But cammier too. The M3 probably has 220-250 pounds on the 996 Turbo? And you can feel it.
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08-20-2017, 05:51 PM | #2 |
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996 turbo is not a lightweight, think it is 3395 pounds |
08-20-2017, 06:49 PM | #3 |
Western Anomaly
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It's no lightweight. True.
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08-20-2017, 10:24 PM | #4 |
The old cranky SOB....
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Shhhh......
You'll make me want to get rid of my 997...... (That's my way of saying - I am not that far behind you... maybe... you never know)
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08-21-2017, 01:57 PM | #5 |
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what I can say about an 03 C4S or 08 C4S is that the acceleration is nice and linear. and the engine makes great sounds (and doesn't thrash) until you reach redline.
what I liked about the Turbo was that the lag is not as bad as on a late 1980s vintage Turbo, but still reasonably forceful. the 87 Turbo feels like it's from that era of car. the 996 Turbo still feels dynamically relevant in 2017.
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08-21-2017, 06:04 PM | #6 |
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I never felt like the E46 was a tall car with a high seating position. But getting out of the cayman and back into the E46 I feel like I'm driving an SUV.
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08-21-2017, 09:37 PM | #7 |
Solving problems
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Just as an "I told you so" because, well, I told you so, you fools all passed on my Turbo.
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08-21-2017, 09:53 PM | #8 |
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08-21-2017, 09:53 PM | #9 |
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08-21-2017, 09:55 PM | #10 |
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