carmudgeons.com  

Go Back   carmudgeons.com > Automotive Forums > Car Talk > Perseverators Anonymous

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-03-2024, 02:24 PM   #5521
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCA View Post
The plan is to hopefully be there and see it come off the truck.




I have repeatedly read that most dealers frown upon that now as allegedly PCNA has advised against it.
@SCA, you’ve driven the 7sp manuals in the 991s, right?

I’m ultra keen on your feedback of the 7sp in the 992. Even better would be some feedback from you on the comparisons between the 991 and 992 generations for this aspect.
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 02:52 PM   #5522
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
@SCA, you’ve driven the 7sp manuals in the 991s, right?

I’m ultra keen on your feedback of the 7sp in the 992. Even better would be some feedback from you on the comparisons between the 991 and 992 generations for this aspect.

I have not. Just the 6 speeds. I have never driven a 991 as well.

Edit: Keep in mind that the 992 T has the SSK from the GTS.

Last edited by SCA; 01-03-2024 at 04:56 PM.
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 04:59 PM   #5523
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCA View Post
I have not. Just the 6 speeds. I have never driven a 991 as well.

Edit: Keep in mind that the 992 T has the SSK from the GTS.
Well. The six speed that Porsche uses in the 996/7 and 987/981 cars is the reference (it is to me), what I’m hoping is that when you drive your 992, that you can say “hey it’s damn close to being as easy to use and notch-free as the six speed transmission that we all know”

The 992 S order is based on trust that Porsche improved the transmission from the 991.2s, but it would be nice to have an owner confirm the trust.
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 05:10 PM   #5524
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Well. The six speed that Porsche uses in the 996/7 and 987/981 cars is the reference (it is to me), what I’m hoping is that when you drive your 992, that you can say “hey it’s damn close to being as easy to use and notch-free as the six speed transmission that we all know”

The 992 S order is based on trust that Porsche improved the transmission from the 991.2s, but it would be nice to have an owner confirm the trust.
Multiple well-known automotive press have stated that the 992 7 speed has been improved since its initial launch. Who knows how much truth is to that? I do know that Andreas Preuninger immensely dislikes the 7 speed. He has been rather blunt about it.
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 06:17 PM   #5525
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCA View Post
Multiple well-known automotive press have stated that the 992 7 speed has been improved since its initial launch. Who knows how much truth is to that? I do know that Andreas Preuninger immensely dislikes the 7 speed. He has been rather blunt about it.


I did NOT know this. Has this come out in interviews or something?

Hilarious.
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 06:29 PM   #5526
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post


I did NOT know this. Has this come out in interviews or something?

Hilarious.
Yes… he has stated it publicly multiple times. You will never see it in a GT car as he would never allow it. Allegedly the bean counters have pushed for its use in GT cars.

Last edited by SCA; 01-03-2024 at 09:46 PM.
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 06:35 PM   #5527
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCA View Post
Yes… he has stated it publicly multiple times.
I will say this —ostensibly the same 6 speed they used in 991.2 GT3 is used in 992 GT3. And it does shift better. Less friction/notchiness. So they either changed the fluids out or worked on the synchros.

This has to be true for the 992 T/S/GTS also then.

Not sure why he would have on it so much though. PDK is perfect for the Macan (note that they do NOT use PDK in Cayennes….) because it’s a small engine and the PDK makes the most out of the horsepower. PDK in the S/GTS and Turbos though — it totally lacks driver involvement, IMHO.

I fully admit at the limits of adhesion, PDK does better than I can do as a human, but for how I own and drive my cars, PDK is robotic and anti-involvement.
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2024, 07:38 PM   #5528
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,048
Here is a recently listed 991.1 GTS that is unrealistically priced @ $148,500, more than the MSRP when new.

2016 911 Carrera GTS: https://mart.pca.org/ads/66368

Last edited by SCA; 01-03-2024 at 07:56 PM.
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2024, 08:08 AM   #5529
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,048
Total 911 Magazine - 2024 Cars To Buy.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_5374.jpeg
Views:	63
Size:	1.84 MB
ID:	16782  
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2024, 07:21 PM   #5530
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,048
Magneto - We take the ultimate Porsche 911 road trip up the Col De Turini

https://www.magnetomagazine.com/we-t...col-de-turini/
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Washed the Saab today... (not dial-up friendly) TD Car Talk 21 03-22-2004 01:47 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forums © 2003-2008, 'Mudgeon Enterprises - Site hosting by AYN & Associates, LLC