Panamera?

[equ]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

One pedal driving is incredibly stressful to me. I don’t get the appeal.

I'm quite used to some motorcycles (especially big singles) having strong engine braking, much more than cars. The only time I drove an electric car for any length of time was an i3 and I got used to one pedal driving in minutes if not seconds. Loved that I could control whether I'm slowing by just engine braking or both engine braking and brake rotors. This is for street, not track.

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by equ

I'm quite used to some motorcycles (especially big singles) having strong engine braking, much more than cars. The only time I drove an electric car for any length of time was an i3 and I got used to one pedal driving in minutes if not seconds. Loved that I could control whether I'm slowing by just engine braking or both engine braking and brake rotors. This is for street, not track.

I find it incredibly stressful to drive smoothly when I can't lift off the throttle without the car braking hard. It was fine driving aggressively, not fine trying to drive smoothly.

[FC]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

I find it incredibly stressful to drive smoothly when I can't lift off the throttle without the car braking hard. It was fine driving aggressively, not fine trying to drive smoothly.

I liked regen braking on the eGolf, but I seldom used the strongest setting. It was a bit too aggressive to drive smoothly and I also did not care for the fact that anytime the foot was off the "gas" the brake lights would turn on.

I used the middle setting.

[lemming]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

I find it incredibly stressful to drive smoothly when I can't lift off the throttle without the car braking hard. It was fine driving aggressively, not fine trying to drive smoothly.

Dude.

EV and sporty don’t belong in the same sentence quite yet.

I rent Tesla 3’s regularly now when I can because it’s fun. It’s fun because I don’t have to own it. That’s what I’ll say.

The Panamera is a very large car. And that diminishes its appeal to me the more I think about this seriously.

[robg]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

I find it incredibly stressful to drive smoothly when I can't lift off the throttle without the car braking hard. It was fine driving aggressively, not fine trying to drive smoothly.

If its just me in the car, I really enjoy the quick response afforded by one pedal driving especiallly in city driving. To me, it gives me that same feeling of control as being in a lower gear in a manual trans car. But, if I have passengers, it does require more concentration to drive smoothly and makes it less fun as a result. Fortunately, I think all cars that offer one-pedal driving also offer the ability to toggle it on or off. Some cars (like the Ioniq5) offer the ablity to select from multiple regen levels by using paddles on the steering wheel. To me, this is the best solution -- still scratching my head as to why Porsche didn't do this on the Taycan. Granted, my experience driving EVs is limited to the occasional rental, loaner, etc so I imagine that with more practice it would become second nature to drive smoothly in high regen mode without even trying.

[robg]

Originally Posted by lemming

Dude.

EV and sporty don’t belong in the same sentence quite yet.

I rent Tesla 3’s regularly now when I can because it’s fun. It’s fun because I don’t have to own it. That’s what I’ll say.

The Panamera is a very large car. And that diminishes its appeal to me the more I think about this seriously.

It's interesting--- I do think I'd actually have more fun driving an EV in most daily driving scenarios due to the instant response and lift-off regen. Probably more than a traditional sports car with a manual. But, yeah, in that special 10% of driving situations (alone in the car, nice empty windy road, good weather, etc) it's better to have the sports car. I do wish there were more choices on the market similar to the Model 3 in size and weight. So far, I think only the i4 comes close. I will say that the Taycan is head and shoulders above the others when it comes the ride/steering/handling...its still a big car though.

[FC]

Originally Posted by robg

Fortunately, I think all cars that offer one-pedal driving also offer the ability to toggle it on or off. Some cars (like the Ioniq5) offer the ablity to select from multiple regen levels...

The eGolf had three settings and they were engaged through the "manumatic" mechanism on the shift lever.

[robg]

Originally Posted by FC

The eGolf had three settings and they were engaged through the "manumatic" mechanism on the shift lever.

Nice. Just furthers my belief that the eGolf got so much right...much of which VW seems to have forgotten in their transition to the ID range.

[equ]

Once I heard someone comparing the looks of the panamera to a suppository, I can't unsee that "image". Was it a top gear episode or some other review? I can't remember.

[FC]

Originally Posted by equ

Once I heard someone comparing the looks of the panamera to a suppository, I can't unsee that "image". Was it a top gear episode or some other review? I can't remember.

Well, the OG Panamera was revolting.