'07 MCS sheds 192lbs.

[FC]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/...k-ii-unveiled/

Per Edmunds, current weight stands at 2679. That would make the '07 2487lbs with better power figures and torque of 177lb-ft from 1600 rpm.

That sounds pretty good. I still don't care for it personally, but my wife is obsessed with it. I'm just glad she likes the '07 just in case we get a used one years down the road.

[John V]

Lighter? Must be a typo. After all, BMW is involved with this car.

[FC]

Originally Posted by John V

Lighter? Must be a typo. After all, BMW is involved with this car.

I did actually have to re-read it when I first saw that.

[John V]

Originally Posted by FC

I did actually have to re-read it when I first saw that.

On a serious note, I think this is awesome. It means BMW actually understands that one of the things consumers like about the MINI is that it's light and feels light.

[ff]

Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

[John V]

Originally Posted by ff

Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

I don't think it's dangerous. It's no worse than, say, an S2000 rolling acceleration from low RPM in second gear.

Anyway, that's why they offer a first gear in the transmission

[Rob]

it is definately a transmission that requires first gear. I had forgotten about that feature until it was mentioned here.

[JST]

Originally Posted by ff

Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

Maybe after stripping 200 lbs out that problem will be solved.

[ZBB]

Originally Posted by ff

Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

Its not really that bad... But I sometimes do skip a gear on upshifts... I'll do 1/2/5 on city streets, or 1/3/4/6 if I'm not feeling like going that fast. Important thing on our '02 Cooper S is keeping the revs above ~2500, otherwise its a slug.

Now we just need to list ours so we can sell it before too many people learn about the '07s...

[ff]

Originally Posted by John V

It's no worse than, say, an S2000 rolling acceleration from low RPM in second gear.

Completely disagree 300%. 400%. It's a big problem with the mini because of the unusually tall gearing and complete lack of torque. And according to the manual, you're not supposed to shift into 1st gear unless you're at a dead stop, or damage to the transmission may result.