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Old 06-08-2017, 11:14 PM   #41
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Don't look at me to talk about new cars...

The E38 is at 199,850 miles
The 997 is at 119,930 miles
The Yuk is at 285,120 miles

Jeezzee.... I gotta get out more. LOL
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:11 AM   #42
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AF, you strike me as a very sweet guy. No judgment from us required.


The 340 is probably a great daily driver / kid hauler fit for Tom. He may get more enjoyment from an s4 or GTI, but if it leases easy and is a low effort fit, go for it. I'd say if cost is a concern, the 330 is plenty quick, but the BMW 4 cyl, while strong (compared to the last BMW 330 Tom owned) is not a pleasant engine.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:18 AM   #43
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Don't look at me to talk about new cars...

The E38 is at 199,850 miles
The 997 is at 119,930 miles
The Yuk is at 285,120 miles
That's awesome
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Jeezzee.... I gotta get out more. LOL
Nah, you're not missing much. When you find something you like, stick with it.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:54 AM   #44
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Great car but unfortunately leases are horrible on the S4 being it just came out plus Audi S cars in general don't lease well.



We just got the 340i for my son, I drove it and my first thoughts were ... man I could really live with this car as if it were mine. Very sporty, tight and powerful car.



I was told there is going to be a pretty big price increase on the 340 and I also was reading BMW is changing the way they lease and the rates are going to be considerably higher so if your thinking of making a move you might want to check it out sooner rather then later.

The new S4 cannot be had with a stick. So it would have to be a used copy between 2013 and 2016. And I've been passively looking at those for years. The problem is no one seems to equip them as I would have and I have never found my unicorn. The cars that get close seem to always be way overpriced.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:54 AM   #45
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What equipment do you want? Sports diff, B&O. Anything else? Alcantara vs. leather doesn't matter much. They do eat front wheel bearings and perhaps brakes, but what luxury sports car doesn't have costs?

I would personally take a 340i over an S4, but I don't like the exterior enough. Are you sure you can live with the steering of the b8.5 s4? I couldn't. Perhaps the b8 (2012) would have been better.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:57 AM   #46
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What equipment do you want? Sports diff, B&O. Anything else? Alcantara vs. leather doesn't matter much. They do eat front wheel bearings and perhaps brakes, but what luxury sports car doesn't have costs?

I would personally take a 340i over an S4, but I don't like the exterior enough. Are you sure you can live with the steering of the b8.5 s4? I couldn't. Perhaps the b8 (2012) would have been better.
B8 steering is OK, but weird.

I have no idea what the stick is like, but the steering in the B9 A4 absolutely kicks the shit out of the F30, IMO. And the 2.0T is surprisingly grunty. IMO, it's a much better appliance than the F30, as long as you can live with less power.
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Old 06-09-2017, 09:26 AM   #47
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b8 and b8.5 steering are somewhat different.

I liked the response of my s4 but overall preferred my 2.0T a4 for highway distance (lower revs, more relaxed response and steering).
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Old 06-09-2017, 11:59 AM   #48
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Have you considered checking swapalease? Might be able to find something short term and super cheap.
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:33 PM   #49
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Have you considered checking swapalease? Might be able to find something short term and super cheap.
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:38 PM   #50
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Yeah this is the right answer. BMWs have become much less attractive from a lease perspective (minimal residual subsidies, no more multiple security deposits).

That leaves you with buying something, and used F80 M3s are pretty affordable.
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