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Old 12-04-2013, 08:50 AM   #51
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The rear suspension of the second-gen RX-7 had a similar setup. Semi-trailing arms with a toe control bushing (vs a link) to toe-in on decel.

Most people felt like it just made the car handle strangely.
John, not sure if this is part of the same thing, but I recall when the Prelude was being hyped with "four-wheel-steering", it became all the rage, for a short time. Never did catch on though.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:35 AM   #52
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Pretty sure the prelude used an active 4WS system since it was a double-wishbone car front and rear. The Porsche and Mazda systems weren't really 4WS, they were just passive toe control.
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Pretty sure the prelude used an active 4WS system since it was a double-wishbone car front and rear. The Porsche and Mazda systems weren't really 4WS, they were just passive toe control.
I almost forgot Hondas had DW set-ups on many of their cars back then ... Honda has mostly done away with this across the line (even on the newest Accords?).

My 2000 E320 has a DW set-up similar to what was on my 87 Accord Lxi hatch - that long, tall fork supporting an upper wishbone angled rear-ward. Early models of my car have a nasty problem; rust at the mounting point causes the suspension perch to collapse ... , you've probably seen older Mercedes with one side down in front, this is the reason (early W210's have well documented rust issues, sometimes from within a year of manufacture, seems Merc was using water-based paint that was prone to corrosion).
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:32 PM   #54
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The 300ZX had some kind of rear wheel steer, too, but don't remember if it was active or passive. Thinking about it, weren't there more than a handful of cars from the mid 80s to mid 90s that did something similar?
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Silverados did as well. IIRC, it was taken off the option list because of its price and (probably resulting) unpopularity.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:59 PM   #56
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The 300ZX had some kind of rear wheel steer, too, but don't remember if it was active or passive. Thinking about it, weren't there more than a handful of cars from the mid 80s to mid 90s that did something similar?
I think so, but the trend lacked direction ...
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