2019 E450 Wagon

[Josh (PA)]

Originally Posted by clyde

I find it notable that you chose to choose five comparison points of about 50 words each that are all comfort & convenience as opposed to driving or utility which are condensed into a single 45 word sentence.

Not suggesting that anything is wrong with that. I just find it interesting. perhaps representative of what matters to us now at the ages we are compared to what mattered to us at some prior date.

Just an observation...

It is a good observation. A couple things came to mind reading your post. First, the things I focused most on were the things that droves us totally bonkers with the wagon. Things you had to experience regularly to really understand how annoying they were. The things that made a first impression before you could even get out of the parking lot or garage. Once the car was going, it was great, but getting it moving was incredibly frustrating, especially when you had another car in the garage "that did it the right way".

Second, the purpose of this car is to brainlessly and comfortably transport us and our dog place (usually a couple hundred miles away). In that use case comfort and convenience are key. If we want to engage with a car and have 'a driving experience'. We have the 135 and the Porsche.

There is a minimum threshold for driving experience (ride comfort, acceleration, power, noise, etc.). Once those thresholds are met (which the x5 exceeds) additional performance doesn't add a ton of value. The wagon was already good at this, so there's not much improvement.

Kind of why an e63amg wouldn't be better in this use case than the e450 was.

Edit: I also agree that 45 words are probably too many for a single sentence

[lemming]

I am glad for your feedback and to follow this saga.

This won’t surprise you, but I’m actually thinking about an E450 wagon or the E63 wagon at the moment. MBUX or not. I just like the way Merc does things. My bar for expectations for electronics and “intuitive” in German cars is quite low.

[Josh (PA)]

Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Just to loop back to this comment. I was able to turn the 22"s into a set of 20" 740Ms with Pirelli runflats, a set of 18" style 618s w/ Nokian snows and $400 cash in my pocket. I am super happy with that outcome. The 18"s are getting shipped from Mass and the 20s are just around the corner from me.

Exhibit A of why I swapped out the 22"s for 20"s. Caught a curb and survived rash free...

We now have 15k miles on the x5 and remain incredibly satisfied with it. All around great car.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Exhibit A of why I swapped out the 22"s for 20"s. Caught a curb and survived rash free...

We now have 15k miles on the x5 and remain incredibly satisfied with it. All around great car.

Glad to hear you love it. And, that's encouraging about the 20s, given I have the same size on my GC as well...

[Theo]

Originally Posted by wdc330i

Glad to hear you love it. And, that's encouraging about the 20s, given I have the same size on my GC as well...

All but with a WAY smaller side wall.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by Theo

All but with a WAY smaller side wall.

Well, that's true.

[SARAFIL]

Glad you’re enjoying it. We love our X5 too, this might be controversial around these parts but it’s honestly one of my favorite BMWs to date. Obviously a different form & function for a X5 vs. others (3’s, 5, Z4) but just great all around car.