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wdc330i · 03-14-2021, 04:49 PM

80 degrees and sunny here in ATL. Drove my son in the 2 with the top down to get some crazy bubble tea for him. Glorious.

Grilling steaks for us tonight.

lip277 · 03-14-2021, 11:58 PM

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Grilling steaks for us tonight.

LOL- we did that a couple of weeks ago. In the SNOW.

zach · 03-15-2021, 09:01 AM

I wonder if a cottage industry of retrofitting 6spds in PDK 911s will crop up similar to the e46 M3 and F430.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-17/

Nick M3 · 03-15-2021, 09:16 AM

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I wonder if a cottage industry of retrofitting 6spds in PDK 911s will crop up similar to the e46 M3 and F430.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-17/

Maybe.

The SMG E46 is both an extremely easy retrofit, and also often similar to or less costly than fixing an SMG issue. It only requires a few parts that are either available new, or can be salvaged cheaply out of any E46. Heck, if you use a CAE style shifter (I don't recommend for a street car, but you can), you don't even have to pull the transmission.

I can't speak to the F430, but the 911 PDK is actually good. Unless you start ending up with a truly monumental price delta, it's hard to see.

Josh (PA) · 03-15-2021, 10:09 AM

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I wonder if a cottage industry of retrofitting 6spds in PDK 911s will crop up similar to the e46 M3 and F430.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-17/

One thing that may drive some demand for this is the fact that Porsche states the PDK transmission is not repairable. There have been some reports of 991.1 cars needing $16k transmission replacements.

Nick M3 · 03-15-2021, 10:55 AM

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One thing that may drive some demand for this is the fact that Porsche states the PDK transmission is not repairable. There have been some reports of 991.1 cars needing $16k transmission replacements.

That pretty much applies to all PDK/DSG/DCT vehicles. IIRC, it's about $10k to replace the DSG in a B8 S4. (I looked into it because my mom's DSG was slowly on its way out. They ended up selling the car.) So far as I can tell, virtually no one manual swaps those.

Porsche people seem to hate transmission swaps. I mean, tiptronic 993s absolutely cry for a swap. The 4HP22 is completely unsuited to a sports car. And yet, you either get penalized or get no resale benefit from the swap.

...also, I think it's worth noting that a 991 manual swap is not going to be cheaper than a $16k transmission replacement.

robg · 03-15-2021, 11:58 AM

Was idly playing around with Edmund's "true cost to own" feature over the weekend and thought this was interesting. The projected 5 year ownership cost of a new base 911 is only a few k more than a 2017 base 911: (86k vs 82k)

https://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/2017/cost-to-own/
https://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/...tyle=401819983

I'd had a hunch that when it comes to 911s there might not be as big a benefit to buying a lightly used one vs a brand new one due to the relatively slow depreciation.

Josh (PA) · 03-25-2021, 06:49 PM

12ft 4in of teenage boy right there

wdc330i · 03-25-2021, 07:06 PM

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12ft 4in of teenage boy right there

Ha! My 14-year-old (soon to be 15) just hit 6 feet.

robg · 03-26-2021, 12:00 PM

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12ft 4in of teenage boy right there

Ha that actually doesn’t look as cramped as I thought it would. Guess the convertible helps ..,

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