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Old Yesterday, 02:21 PM   #6001
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Break-in recommendation is to be keep it under 4000 for the first 1,875 miles. I have gone to 4300 a few times. Meh… I think even with lightweight glass and less sound deadening in a T, a large part of the experience seems to be masked. I noticed last night at speeds above 60-65 miles an hour you do not hear much. More German luxury than German sports car. The overall 992 size is a factor as well, but one must just suck it up and deal with it if they want to be in a new 911.

I have repeatedly read that the S is where one wants to be if they desire the power and a manual. I wish Lemming would take delivery soon to confirm as it might be too late… The T and I have gone our separate ways.

I have very recently inquired about getting an S and was told no more .1 allocations. It will have to be a .2 and there are tons of unknowns like 48v and the possibility of no manual. The absence of the analog tachometer would probably bother me too, but I would eventually get over it.

Edit: As a refresher, I originally wanted an S allocation, but they are highly desirable, therefore difficult to come by. The T was a way to get my foot in the door with my dealer as a first time new Porsche owner.
Hi. I’m following your saga —I’m with ya. Sorry my delivery is delayed. It will be at PEC LA. Needed to do the PPF and all of that jazz first. And then my killer schedule. It’s delayed because of me really. (Sorry)

To be honest, if the Carrera S is as fast as I know it is, I could loosen my grip on the GT3. There’s a lot of if’s there.

The only thing I can say about my 2018 Carrera T is that it was adequate power if I shifted the hell out of it. But the gap between that 991.2 base powerplant and the 991.2 Turbo S is vast. And i wanted something closer to the middle but with a manual.

My current thinking right now is sell my GT3 6 speed and try to get on a list for a 992.2 Speedster. Or buy a CPO 911 Sport Classic.
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Old Yesterday, 04:10 PM   #6002
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Hi. I’m following your saga —I’m with ya. Sorry my delivery is delayed. It will be at PEC LA. Needed to do the PPF and all of that jazz first. And then my killer schedule. It’s delayed because of me really. (Sorry)

To be honest, if the Carrera S is as fast as I know it is, I could loosen my grip on the GT3. There’s a lot of if’s there.

The only thing I can say about my 2018 Carrera T is that it was adequate power if I shifted the hell out of it. But the gap between that 991.2 base powerplant and the 991.2 Turbo S is vast. And i wanted something closer to the middle but with a manual.

My current thinking right now is sell my GT3 6 speed and try to get on a list for a 992.2 Speedster. Or buy a CPO 911 Sport Classic.
Just asked (politely) if I could be put on 992.2 Speedster list. 2028 car looks like.
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Old Yesterday, 04:44 PM   #6003
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The last gen Speedster is the only 911 after the 997 that really interests me
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Old Yesterday, 05:35 PM   #6004
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The last gen Speedster is the only 911 after the 997 that really interests me
Agreed. The $$$ makes no sense to me, but yeah.
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Old Yesterday, 06:21 PM   #6005
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Agreed. The $$$ makes no sense to me, but yeah.
Dude.

They’re still asking over $400,000. And they’re all 5 years old now.

It’s incredible.

That’s why I’m trying to just get a new one. If they’re going to cost that much, I’ll try for new then. Fine.
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I guess at one time Spike and Zuckerman owned a 991 Speedster, but they apparently did not care for it that much and cut it loose pretty quickly. Not all that surprising as they kind of have car ADD.

Edit: Which by the way, I suspect I might now have myself.

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Old Yesterday, 10:59 PM   #6007
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Sean, this completely sucks you are thinking of getting rid of it, forget the break in and just drive the freakin thing, it might change your mind.

You have barely gotten to know this car and I really doubt redline will be hurting it at 600 miles.

Porsches change a lot at the upper end of the rpm’s. Just floor it and go from there and I know you’re going to respond that Porsche can see it …. Whoop Dee do … you paid $140k just drive it already.
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Old Today, 08:18 AM   #6008
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Sean, this completely sucks you are thinking of getting rid of it, forget the break in and just drive the freakin thing, it might change your mind.

You have barely gotten to know this car and I really doubt redline will be hurting it at 600 miles.

Porsches change a lot at the upper end of the rpm’s. Just floor it and go from there and I know you’re going to respond that Porsche can see it …. Whoop Dee do … you paid $140k just drive it already.
I could never imagine Sean doing this while in technical break-in!
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Old Today, 08:37 AM   #6009
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Sean, this completely sucks you are thinking of getting rid of it, forget the break in and just drive the freakin thing, it might change your mind.

You have barely gotten to know this car and I really doubt redline will be hurting it at 600 miles.

Porsches change a lot at the upper end of the rpm’s. Just floor it and go from there and I know you’re going to respond that Porsche can see it …. Whoop Dee do … you paid $140k just drive it already.

Thanks for the advice Alan. I am simply not in love with it and I suspect subconsciously my mind has already closed the chapter on it. BTW, with ttt and PPF I am in at $150k.

FYI, I spent a full day driving it 150 miles through the Mtns. which included going through The Dragon to NC and back to TN (318 turns in 11 miles) a month ago. Nothing mind blowing was discovered during the process.

My former BMW client advisor for decades, whom retired at the end of January called me three weeks ago to check-in as we became friends over the past 30+ years. This happened to be the first time that I made him aware that I had purchased a new 911. His advice was, “If you do not love it now then you are never going to love it, so it truly makes zero sense to keep it in hope that you eventually force yourself into liking it.” He is 100% correct.

I originally wanted a manual S and settled for a T because I could acquire one quicker, clearly this might have not been the best idea. It would appear that when you have the itch for something specifically, you cannot scratch that itch with something else. Obviously hindsight now.


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I could never imagine Sean doing this while in technical break-in!
You would be 100% accurate, especially with me knowing that PAG can internally see the rev ranges if they so desire. Which I confidently know if there is a powertrain related failure, they will fully investigate as to why. I do not want to be held accountable for one, especially financially.

4300 RPM is my infrequent limit at 6XX miles and obviously only at the full operating temp of 205-210°.

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