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Yeah you have a Mercedes for this role. Spend the same amount and get a used GT3 for the weekend.
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I don’t know that a true manual is a good fit for the Modern Turbo.
I think it is expensive. But I wonder if depreciation will now hold steady.
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I might be wrong but $160k for a 18k mile 3 year old turbo non ‘S’ seems high and once the COVID spell breaks the used car bubble will eventually break ... If the itch is still there to get another car after getting the MB, the Camaro and the Jeep then get an allocation and get the 992S. |
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But when I do the analyses, is it not true that GT3 and then Turbos hold their value the best? The issue with the AMG GTR and any McLaren is depreciation. And when the new base price on a 911 Turbo is $197,000, this price range is not out of hand. The COVID19 bubble is in effect, but I’d say this is close to what used Turbos get. And no, this doesn’t replace a ZL1. This would replace the 987.2.
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In every other use case it just seems ill suited. It's not a good track car, it's too fast and powerful to use on the street, it can putter along in traffic but it's wholly wasted (and it likely gets terrible gas mileage) and on and on. I just don't see the reason to have it over a "normal" 911, even if you want an automatic. But I guess if you're not happy driving the Mercedes in traffic and want something sportier, it is an option. I wouldn't get the Club Coupe. It looks like fun but it's way too much stress having a "collectible" car that you're trying to keep pristine for the next owner/resale purposes. And I'd feel even worse every time I scratched that car than I do when I scratch my current POS 987.1. IDK. Maybe the Turbo will hold its value, maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised if it did. But I also think you have to be prepared to lose 20 percent or so, just because that seems like what used cars lose in any normal market. And 20 percent of 150K is...not so far off what the 987 is worth. In other words, with your base that high, small variations in residual are going to lead to very large swings in absolute terms. |
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The thing that caught my eye was the non S variant still runs the quarter mile in 10.9 seconds —which is basically on par with the Hellcat. Which is ludicrous for a fat bellied GT of a 911. It’s just like Everest. It’s there. So one feels compelled to climb it.
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