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Old 04-10-2018, 06:35 PM   #101
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To just see the referenced 2019 2.0t 1LE Camaro Autoblog piece JST's linked thread points to, go direct:

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/09/...linder-review/

For more about 2019 Camaro refreshes, try here:
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=525590

That is awesome Clyde, thanks for taking time to post this
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:26 PM   #102
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Hmm, that is a little suspect.

I did not know about the 1LE Turbo... there seems to always be a special edition of every car that is always slightly better or different enough to mess with autocross classing!

Photos with the new rims/tires?
The 2019 Camaro refresh was revealed yesterday. The 2.0t 1LE was a surprise to everyone. Looking at more specs this evening, it would be a nicer car from a comfort and convenience perspective, but it comes at the cost of that super ugly new front end.

And, yeah, there's always something, especially with the pony cars.

Pic wit dat gap tho
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:55 PM   #103
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The 2019 Camaro refresh was revealed yesterday. The 2.0t 1LE was a surprise to everyone. Looking at more specs this evening, it would be a nicer car from a comfort and convenience perspective, but it comes at the cost of that super ugly new front end.
Definitely prefer the older nose. Also the 2019 would be how many k more? 8?
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:25 PM   #104
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Definitely prefer the older nose. Also the 2019 would be how many k more? 8?
I'd expect the 2019 2.0t 1LE to MSRP for just under $31,000 if the base MSRP doesn't change. This 1LE package is basically the same as the V6's 1LE which is $4500. The V6 1LE is not nearly as trick as the 1LE available for the SS. It's essentially the 1SS suspension, big brakes, extra cooling, and comfort & convenience dodads.

I paid $19 for my car (which also added $800ish for the "technology" package and $79 for wheel locks ). In similar circumstances (sitting on lot for 17 months and 4-5 month into the next model year, I'd expect to pay about $23ish in February 2020 for a leftover 2019 model.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:21 PM   #105
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But that's all the way out in 2020. The deal you got is unreal.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:04 PM   #106
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Awesome, those rims look a bit like the JDM Volk TE37? Are they Forgelines?

The wheel gap is pretty big. My car has about the same now that I'm in DS.

I don't hate the new 2019 look but prefer your version.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:29 PM   #107
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Awesome, those rims look a bit like the JDM Volk TE37? Are they Forgelines?
TRMotorsport. One of the Tire Rack house brands. Not sure who makes them, but they're relatively light, supposed to be reasonably strong, and pretty inexpensive.

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The wheel gap is pretty big. My car has about the same now that I'm in DS.
The tires, 275/35-18, are really short compared to the OE size at 245/50-18. 7.3% shorter.

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I don't hate the new 2019 look but prefer your version.
The 2.0t front end isnt as hideous as the SS. The rear isn't that bad.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:12 PM   #108
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... while test fitting a set of race wheels & tires this evening, discovering some GM build quality (or "shit, does the car have a story?") surprises.

Driver side. Passenger side looks similar. A few nuts and bolts look like may have slipped up to 1/8 of a turn.
GM's parts quality is "just about almost good enough". No idea about the assembly line. Atoms were regularly snapping hubs and driveshafts even though they were off the Cobalt SS which was a much heavier car.

Judging by the taper on the bolts and the flutes on the nuts, the nuts are single-use parts. Tightening them will likely be worse than leaving them as-is, but keep an eye out for them loosening further.
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GM's parts quality is "just about almost good enough". No idea about the assembly line. Atoms were regularly snapping hubs and driveshafts even though they were off the Cobalt SS which was a much heavier car.

Judging by the taper on the bolts and the flutes on the nuts, the nuts are single-use parts. Tightening them will likely be worse than leaving them as-is, but keep an eye out for them loosening further.
Almost all of the nuts and bolts are listed as single use. I was thinking of making a list of what I need and ordering new everything. In the meantime, leave as-is through the first event, check everything against where things are now and then go from there. I still need to align it and there's a thing I need to do on the front end that involves loosening, pushing, pulling, and re-tightening to get some extra camber. I can't do that until I can set front toe immediately after.

Still pissed off, though.
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A few pics after a wash this evening
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