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given the high predicted curb weight, torque is a key value.
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09-07-2006, 04:01 PM | #12 |
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The lowly Mustang GT had 300# in 1987. :yawn:
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HP/litre people like to paint people who wouldn't mind a little torque with their HP as people who might as well drive diesels.
relying on gearing to multiply torque only works when the car is lightweight. that's all i'll say and the e60 M5 has proven my point for me. by itself, in absolute terms, 383#ft is a lot of torque and not bad for a 5litre motor. but even with 7 tightly spaced gears, it's really difficult to rip off great acceleration because the chassis is 4000lbs. ...and the telling measurement is 1/4 mile times. longer time spent per gear helps the M5 put down a decent 1/4 mile time, but its trap speed is pretty unremarkable. (Mercedes wasn't dumb when they chose to go with displacement in their new V8......)
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There's an interesting figure in this book:
which plots HP/L versus year. It is interesting to see the cars creep steadily up as fuels and technology improve. Well, they all do that except for the 1980's Mustang which is back with cars from the 1950's and 1960's. I'm not inferring anything... just making an observation. |
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he'll actually do it and he might do a Fourier transform on the data, too.
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hey FFluffernutter: the c3s came damn close.
all torque and no HP (most of the c3 range) is suboptimal, but this trend of high curb weight with peaky, cammy torqueless motors is really not my idea of "sports car".
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