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Random GT4 / Cayman R / 987 Spyder musings
EQU's comments about the GT4 in the Miata thread had me googling GT4 and how it compares to a Cayman R, since that's my only real point of reference. I found the following interesting comments by a guy who owns a GT4, Cayman R, and a 987 Spyder.
I can't figure out how to link to an individual post in the thread, so I'll quote some snippets from the post here with a link to the thread: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...f=48&t=1651787 Quote:
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05-14-2018, 04:19 PM | #2 |
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For me the R is not the right balance of comfort, sound isolation, and handling for a daily driver. But I am starting to really appreciate it as a car that I own and drive occasionally just for fun. Particularly when I stay on decent roads.
It also seems perfect for the track. And kind of makes me want to take it there. |
05-14-2018, 04:32 PM | #3 | |
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05-15-2018, 09:16 AM | #4 |
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I haven't driven a Cayman R, or a 987 Spyder. Or a Cayman GT4. Or a 981.
Given that huge bank of knowledge, I'm glad I got the 987.2S. I really strongly considered the Spyder, but the lack of a real top scared me off. For how we've used this car, including a number of long weekend trips, I think the Spyder would have been an annoyance and I'm glad I didn't go for it. I think now and then that I might be happier with a Cayman S, as the little convertible annoyances (squeaks and rattles mostly) do bother me. And more often than not, it's simply too hot and humid here for me to be comfortable driving with the top down. But in the spring and fall, it's really pretty nice having a convertible. |
05-15-2018, 09:20 AM | #5 |
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My gt4 ownership and Cayman R almost-ownership are separated by 3 to 4 years.
For me - out of the box - the gt4 had too much power and grip to be fun on the street. And the grip - out of the box, without messing with tires and sways - was less even/neutral than a 987 CR or a 981S. This is due to the 295/245 widths (instead of the customary 265/235) and the special sauce high grip rear suspension (where on corner exit most 987/981 start giving up). The tires MPSC2 were not fun on the street, exactly as Savage Geese describes in that and his performance tire video. That meant that on top $100k, I would have to fork over $$$ for a set of MPSS, either on original wheels or other wheels and on top of that store that set. Just not the car for me. I disagree with Savage Geese on the sound. It didn't sound bad, but the 3.8 in the mid-engine space did not create the symphony that the 3.4 creates nor 3.8 in the 997/991. I haven't driven a Cayman R in/near NYC. My test drives were far flung. I found it firm but not harsh. I found the exhaust just right but it did not PSE 'on' or the option at all IMHO. The power level and tires are better for the street and the steering feel is better than any 981, including gt4. The 981's have better shifters and brakes. The 987 and thus CR cabin is smaller, simpler and a bit more retro. I'd still want one (ideally in peridot and definitely without the fixed buckets or PDK). |
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