Electric Pickup Trucks

[ZBB]

As to the fleet market... yes, there is demand. Any company with a carbon neutral target will at least look at the cost/benefit... if the cost to operate an EV truck is the same or less than a gas/diesel truck plus the cost of offsets, they will easily sell. Especially to utilities and their suppliers...

[clyde]

Originally Posted by JST

People doubted that buyers would embrace aluminum or give up V8s in favor of a twin-turbo six, as well.

My guess is that pickup buyers are less reactionary than most people think. When presented with a compelling option, they'll go for it. There are a lot of ways in which an EV pickup would be noticeably better than a gas or even diesel option, though there are also clear use cases where it would not be.

Agree. Make a lot of sense for work trucks doing local duty with easy access to overnight charging. Not a great choice for long distance towing until there's a quick and convenient public/retail recharging option.

[ZBB]

Clyde -
Please go to PlugShare.com and filter to only the CCS/SAE chargers. You might be surprised to see just how many public/retail non-Tesla fast chargers are already available. The network is fast expanding - not quite on par with Tesla’s network but catching up fast. Much of this network is funded by VW via their dieselgate settlement, and the Electrify America stations are designed similar to Superchargers with multiple chargers at each station (not just single chargers like many non Tesla stations were prior...)

CCS/SAE is the connector that nearly all existing automakers are using for dastcharging (basically everyone except Nissan)

[rumatt]

Originally Posted by clyde

Not a great choice for long distance towing

I also wonder what the range will be like when towing. Even if chargers were everywhere, having to stop for 20 minutes of every hour to charge would be maddening.

Of course they could load it up with so many batteries that it runs forever, but then a) it'll cost a fortune, and b) it'll take forever to charge on a level 2 charger.

[rumatt]

Originally Posted by ZBB

Please go to PlugShare.com and filter to only the CCS/SAE chargers. You might be surprised to see just how many public/retail non-Tesla fast chargers are already available.

Is there a way to filter by charging speed on that site?

I'm finding a lot of (what I believe to be) level 2 chargers, and I don't see that as useful except for overnight charging. I'm not sitting in my car outside some dudes house for 6 hours while my car charges.

[JST]

Originally Posted by rumatt

Is there a way to filter by charging speed on that site?

I'm finding a lot of (what I believe to be) level 2 chargers, and I don't see that as useful except for overnight charging. I'm not sitting in my car outside some dudes house for 6 hours while my car charges.

Yes, if you click on the hamburger menu on the upper left, there's a "Filter" field, and you can filter by specific charger type--Tesla, Supercharger, J1772, CHAdeMO, SAE/CCS, etc. You can select as many of those as you want to include.

[rumatt]

Yeah but SAE/CCS doesn't tell me a speed right? Isn't it a huge potential range?

The charger type tells me whether I have the adaptor I need and will be able to charge. Not how long I'm going to be stuck there.

[JST]

SAE/CCS is all Type 3 DC fast charge; yes, there is a big range on those chargers, but it doesn’t include Type 2.

[kognito]

Originally Posted by clyde

Not a great choice for long distance towing

Originally Posted by rumatt

I also wonder what the range will be like when towing. Even if chargers were everywhere, having to stop for 20 minutes of every hour to charge would be maddening.

Of course they could load it up with so many batteries that it runs forever, but then a) it'll cost a fortune, and b) it'll take forever to charge on a level 2 charger.

Someone must be working on trailers where the wheels are also generators. You can't get something from nothing, but if your trailer wheels can help charge the batteries it would have to extend the range.

[JST]

Can’t get something from nothing—the drag from the generators would require even higher pulling power.