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Old 09-26-2023, 07:53 PM   #4991
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Couple more items, re: 911 ST —

It has a gurney flap because Porsche Motorsport thinks the GT3 Touring rear spoiler looks goofy and they want to minimize the usage of it. So it doesn’t deploy until 80mph.

Second —they re programmed the dampers so it has a much better ride than the GT3s which tend to be high strung and flinty.
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Old 09-26-2023, 08:06 PM   #4992
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The good news is that it should be relatively easy to retune the GT3 dampers if you’re looking for a better compromise, no?
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:35 PM   #4993
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The good news is that it should be relatively easy to retune the GT3 dampers if you’re looking for a better compromise, no?
I think whenever they pull this thing about “only 1963 examples” it drives the insanity.

I’m 100% convinced the ST will drive differently. And maybe even better…..as a better GT3 Touring.

But I’ve never liked the idea of a Touring anyway, so I guess it’s really aimed at that crowd? Like “sorry, guys, we knew we messed up the suspension of the GT3 for the road……oh well”.

I think if the GT3RS is going for $520-550k to drive off a dealer lot, this car has to be the same, if you can even get the allocation.
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Old 09-27-2023, 11:08 AM   #4994
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I think whenever they pull this thing about “only 1963 examples” it drives the insanity.

I’m 100% convinced the ST will drive differently. And maybe even better…..as a better GT3 Touring.

But I’ve never liked the idea of a Touring anyway, so I guess it’s really aimed at that crowd? Like “sorry, guys, we knew we messed up the suspension of the GT3 for the road……oh well”.

I think if the GT3RS is going for $520-550k to drive off a dealer lot, this car has to be the same, if you can even get the allocation.
yeah it rides a lot better then GT3 according to the online videos

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Old 09-27-2023, 11:23 AM   #4995
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yeah it rides a lot better then GT3 according to the online videos

My main comment is that the GT3 (not the GT3 Touring) is so fantastic on the track —these comments resonate less with me. I have no FOMO here.

(I don’t even have FOMO for the Sport classic because it has the clunky 7 speed manual.)
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Old 09-27-2023, 11:26 AM   #4996
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Old 09-27-2023, 11:32 AM   #4997
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My main comment is that the GT3 (not the GT3 Touring) is so fantastic on the track —these comments resonate less with me. I have no FOMO here.

(I don’t even have FOMO for the Sport classic because it has the clunky 7 speed manual.)
yes S/T is more for the street then track.

As you mentioned, GT3 touring is kind of a odd package. Sounds like it is for touring but still has the track ready suspension which is not ideal for the street. I agree, touring should soften up the suspension a bit compared to the GT3(also add the rear seats as an option)
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yes S/T is more for the street then track.

As you mentioned, GT3 touring is kind of a odd package. Sounds like it is for touring but still has the track ready suspension which is not ideal for the street. I agree, touring should soften up the suspension a bit compared to the GT3(also add the rear seats as an option)
My main takeaway is that the S/T is a mea culpa because the GT3 Touring is a lazy engineering effort.

It has neither the enhanced downforce of the standard GT3, nor a street adapted steering ratio or damping.

I guess since I have never fallen in love with the GT3 Touring, I’m so meh.

But it would rock my world if they put the GT3RS or the RSR engine in the 992.2 GT3. That would wake me up from my stubborn and willful ignorance.
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