Tesla Model S waffling

[JST]

Originally Posted by bren

Ignoring the sketchy "black box" logging/data sharing issue - the plan to look at how autopilot and human actions differ in an accident will be pretty neat to see.

Yeah, this is actually a pretty solid proposal. Coming up with the record evidence to allow any sort of risk-based regulation of these technologies is a huge trick; this will go a long way toward providing the info that NHTSA needs to decide how best to regulate these things going forward.

I still have no interest in a car that drives itself, which to me is like a self-licking ice cream cone. But I know I'm in the minority.

[dan]

I still have no interest in a car that drives itself, which to me is like a self-licking ice cream cone. But I know I'm in the minority.

Isn't it more like going to a restaurant to eat food that's been cooked for you

[JST]

Originally Posted by undefined

Isn't it more like going to a restaurant to eat food that's been cooked for you

No. Because I don't care so much about the eating. I like the cooking.

[bren]

Originally Posted by JST

Yeah, this is actually a pretty solid proposal. Coming up with the record evidence to allow any sort of risk-based regulation of these technologies is a huge trick; this will go a long way toward providing the info that NHTSA needs to decide how best to regulate these things going forward.

I still have no interest in a car that drives itself, which to me is like a self-licking ice cream cone. But I know I'm in the minority.

I'm growing to accept that there are many, many, people who need to be relieved of their driving duties. In that sense, I'm okay with it. Though, it totally defeats the purpose when you still have to pay attention and have a hand near the wheel at all times.

[ff]

Originally Posted by bren

I'm growing to accept that there are many, many, people who need to be relieved of their driving duties. In that sense, I'm okay with it

Ditto. I also wouldn't mind reducing the owned fleet down to 1. Less car payment, less insurance payment, less fuel/maintenance, less depreciation, less liability exposure, smaller garages.

My biggest concern with self-driving cars, isn't the self driving cars. It's all the knuckleheads still not in self-driving cars.

Originally Posted by bren

Though, it totally defeats the purpose when you still have to pay attention and have a hand near the wheel at all times.

Baby steps. For a while I stubbornly resisted all the lane departure type nannies finding their way into cars these days. Then I realized that it's basically the beta version of the systems that will be used in self-driving cars. Testing out the waters, slowly.

[bren]

Originally Posted by ff

Ditto. I also wouldn't mind reducing the owned fleet down to 1. Less car payment, less insurance payment, less fuel/maintenance, less depreciation, less liability exposure, smaller garages.

My biggest concern with self-driving cars, isn't the self driving cars. It's all the knuckleheads still not in self-driving cars.


Baby steps. For a while I stubbornly resisted all the lane departure type nannies finding their way into cars these days. Then I realized that it's basically the beta version of the systems that will be used in self-driving cars. Testing out the waters, slowly.

Over-reliance still concerns me with those features. The blind-spot detectors don't do a great job of anticipating closing speed when being overtaken for instance.

[ff]

Originally Posted by bren

Over-reliance still concerns me with those features.

That's the reason why I loathed the nannies (more so at first). It seems like they'd invite people to pay even less attention to the road. Not sure if that's reality, but...

[ZBB]

Tesla posted a demonstration video of the full self driving:

https://player.vimeo.com/video/188105076


Also, here's their updated autopilot page with descriptions of the types of automation it has (both "enhanced autopilot" and "full self-driving".)

https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

[ZBB]

Originally Posted by JST

I still have no interest in a car that drives itself, which to me is like a self-licking ice cream cone. But I know I'm in the minority.

I noticed that you mentioned this in your for sale thread over at TMC:

Originally Posted by JST over at TMC

Only selling because I have another one inbound.

[JST]

Those two statements are not inconsistent.